Personalmente non me ne frega niente di queste guerre interne linux DE, che a mio parere sono molto stupide. Ti piace Gnomo? Usa Gnomo, ti piace plasma usare plasma, ognuno ha pro e contro, ma ogni volta che si tratta di Plasma o Gnomo, leggere la solita litania è deprimente.
Personalmente sono grato al team Gnome e al team KDE per il lavoro che devono affrontare e sono felice di avere alternative.
Non vedo l'ora dell'arrivo di Plasma 5.22 che dovrebbe apportare ulteriori miglioramenti sulla via terra, immagino che il prossimo Plasma LTS verrà spedire via terra per impostazione predefinita, se continuiamo così.
Sto usando Plasma 5.21 su wayland e pipewire su Tumbleweed sul mio pc costantemente e anche se tutto non è ancora perfetto, sono soddisfatto, ma non vedo l'ora di 5.22. Ottimo lavoro.
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Originally posted by bug77 View Post... As far UIs are concerned, responsiveness is determined by a few milliseconds, immersion can be broken by being a single pixel off. "it's just a few seconds, no biggie" is not what I want to hear from my favorite DE developer...
Gnome took the position that saving some people milliseconds in the UI was good even if it sent others into an hours-long dive into dconf/gconf on stackoverflow to accomplish some DE tasks.
With KDE, there is a potentially overwhelming and ugly wall of in-UI configurability.
Interestingly, when extended to the extreme, both of these dogmas come to the same endpoint:
Infinite simplicity / streamlining would be a UI that does nothing, where everyone becomes a programmer/bash power user by necessity.
Infinite complexity / flexibility of the UI results in practically the same outcome, just with a mouse involved.
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Originally posted by ngraham View Post...
So there is one extra step, and the flow is a bit different. I agree that this could be streamlined a bit, but we're talking about a matter of seconds. I'm not sure this qualifies as a huge deal.
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As far UIs are concerned, responsiveness is determined by a few milliseconds, immersion can be broken by being a single pixel off. "it's just a few seconds, no biggie" is not what I want to hear from my favorite DE developer.
And I do understand how hard it is to make a proper DE for free. Hell, even Microsoft with all their billions will do a Windows 8 sometimes. But I do believe having the right mindset is paramount.
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Originally posted by ngraham View Post
We fixed that last week. I mentioned it in https://pointieststick.com/2021/04/3...-so-much-more/.
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Originally posted by Lanz View PostThey really need to rework Kickoff (the start menu) yet again. You open it up and naturally your mouse goes up to one of the categories, causing you to have to bring it back down and hover over favourites again to see them.
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Originally posted by Lanz View PostThey really need to rework Kickoff (the start menu) yet again. You open it up and naturally your mouse goes up to one of the categories, causing you to have to bring it back down and hover over favourites again to see them.
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Not really. We can query users from outside SDDM and present a list of which user to switch to so what when you get to SDDM, it's showing you that user such that entering the user's password will take you right there. It's just a matter of doing it. I have filed a bug report to track the request: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436821
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Originally posted by ngraham View Post
It's actually pretty similat to on OS X. Compare:
macOS:
1. Click your own name in the menubar
2. Click the name of the user you want to switch to
[you are taken to a big login prompt thingy]
3. Enter password for that user
4. Hit enter key or click button
Plasma
1. Hit Meta Key or click Kickoff icon to open it
2. Click "Switch User"
[you are taken to SDDM, the login manager]
3. Click on user you want to switch to
4. Enter password for that user
5. Hit enter key or click button
So there is one extra step, and the flow is a bit different. I agree that this could be streamlined a bit, but we're talking about a matter of seconds. I'm not sure this qualifies as a huge deal.
Still, probably not that hard to change so that you select which user you want to switch to a bit earlier.
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They really need to rework Kickoff (the start menu) yet again. You open it up and naturally your mouse goes up to one of the categories, causing you to have to bring it back down and hover over favourites again to see them.
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Originally posted by ngraham View PostWhat are the strange behaviors and inconsistencies? I use Alt+Tab 5000 times a day and it's working pretty well for my use cases at least.
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