Originally posted by coder
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I made several analogies. I never said Google has a singular mainframe as the IBM System/360 was in 1964. I said and I am 100% correct in stating that Google has a "Mainframe in the Cloud". THE operative word being "Cloud" which already assumes and connotes "distributed" and interconnected. And yet to the useronioithic and personal to your experience and need just as you would experience it from your dumb terminal back in the day. Even the word "Mainframe" as applied since the 1960s regardless of brand still applies and is correct terminology for Google's Data Warehouses as the compute, storage and network nodes all reside in a frame that makes up the physical plant of the warehouse which is a collection of frames with these various nodes. Google Cloud, AWS, Azure, IBM Cloud are simply 21st Century Mainframes that now just happened to be both WAY more massive than their classic Mainframe forefathers as well as being massivley distributed and interconnected in ways their forefathers were not and could never be given the state of tech and networking at that time...._(Although ARPANET showed the way in 1969)_....
I never said Chromebooks and Android phones were "dumb terminals". I said they were and are "Semi-Dumb" terminals reflecting a "modified analogie". Obviously because of some local compute and storage function Chromebooks and Android phones could never be the simple, dumb terminal of 1964 era Mainframe timesharing computing. Hence my terminology of "SEMI" dumb. But make no mistake there is STILL a perception in the consumer mind space after a decade of Chromebook existence that it's not a REAL computer because it's just a "browser in a box". I know. I used to try to sell them at Best Buy back in the day. I own one today. My kids have two. I perfectly know that they are not "Dumb" Terminals of long ago. But 10 years ago and until they were able to run Android apps locally and locally stored , yes , Chromebooks were just the 21st Century HTTP browser based Dumb Terminal with all your compute services residing in Google's Mainframe in the Cloud. They're slightly more than that of course now. But not MUCH more, hence "Semi-Dumb Terminal.
You don't seem to take much stock in the emerging 5G and 6G connectivity regimen and yes you should be skeptical of utopian marketing boilerplate and bullshit. Here once again I know from experience . I have both a degree in Meterology AND Marketing and Advertising . I know how the sausage is made and where it comes from. That said, with my 4G Sprint Cellular phone transfering WiFi to my Chromebook and without the game being installed on my Chromebook, I am able to play Cyberpunk 2077 at 60FPS 1080p. The look on my son's face after he dropped a dime or two for that game on his PS and it didn't look any better than on my Chromebook was absolutely priceless ! He has never again said "Ok , Boomer" to me.
Stadia gaming IS "Dumb Terminal" to Mainframe computing. And if that can happen now with high latency, high ping 4G, how can you still doubt what I mentioned is coming and will manifest with 5G, 5.5 G and much less 6G? We are going to see single digit pings on Cellular this decade. We are going to see microsecond latencies in the 2030s. What makes you think all the hyperscalers are going to scale back putting more warehouses closer to and in more localities? Hell, at the rate that Malls are dying out in American every major city in every state in the nation could have a data warehouse from one or more of the Big Three. Copper backhaul is being replaced every day with Fiber. I know. My cell tower in my backyard just last year got brand new spanking fiber from AT&T to feed the Sprint (now T-Mobile) transmitters as well as the newly installed 5G Verizon transmitters. None of my families phones have 5G but all of our 4G has vastly improved.
We've gone from 20-ish Mbs Up and Down to 70-ish Up and Down. Pings have dropped from 60ms-ish to 20ms- ish. Jitter is down too. And this is Sprint mind you and Sprint over Boost Mobile. It's shit. And yet....Cyberpunk 2077 in 1080p at 60 fps on a Chromebook.
And yet I somehow too pie in the sky and an wrong about the Mainframe paradigm we see today. Just as Mini-Computers made computing for Mainframe guys more "personal" and "local" and "Micro-Computers" made computing for the rest of us more "personal" and "local", High Speed Internet both wired and wireless via Cellular along with Hyperscaled Mainframes in the Clouds are redifining what "PERSONAL" computing means. And "Personal" computing going forward is WAY more like 1960s Era Timesharing Mainframe Computing through Terminals than it was with my totally un_networked, totally isolated, totally local, totally personal computing experience with my Commodore 64 in 1982.
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