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  • #21
    Originally posted by Azrael5 View Post
    Is HTTP protocol dismissed or locked however?
    That question didn't make sense. It's only enabled when a webserver is setup to serve the requests. It requires HTTPS to be enabled and it uses UDP sockets instead of TCP.
    Chrome has had this for years.

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    • #22
      Mozilla has suffered so many self inflicted wounds over the decades that I'm afraid they might never be able to recover. The only Mozilla program I run regularly now is Thunderbird, and that's only because I've never been able to port my email and 15 years of archives to anything else, and man have I tried. So for now I live with the fear that every update will break extensions again.

      I think the final nail in their coffin may be their surrender of the only real browser that ran on Android, and replacing it with "Daylight", which is just as dismal as all other Android browsers. I mean really, it's flabbergasting. They still had an extremely popular browser on one platform, and purposefully destroyed it. And ever since, even as their ratings plummeted from 5 to 4.3, they refuse to reverse course.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Azrael5 View Post
        Is HTTP protocol dismissed or locked however?
        What do you mean?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by muncrief View Post
          Mozilla has suffered so many self inflicted wounds over the decades that I'm afraid they might never be able to recover. The only Mozilla program I run regularly now is Thunderbird, and that's only because I've never been able to port my email and 15 years of archives to anything else, and man have I tried. So for now I live with the fear that every update will break extensions again.

          I think the final nail in their coffin may be their surrender of the only real browser that ran on Android, and replacing it with "Daylight", which is just as dismal as all other Android browsers. I mean really, it's flabbergasting. They still had an extremely popular browser on one platform, and purposefully destroyed it. And ever since, even as their ratings plummeted from 5 to 4.3, they refuse to reverse course.
          Mozilla foundation has a lot of money, and more of it than ever goes to top level executives. While they were laying off engineers throughout last year, they were giving themselves raises.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by muncrief View Post
            Mozilla has suffered so many self inflicted wounds over the decades that I'm afraid they might never be able to recover. The only Mozilla program I run regularly now is Thunderbird, and that's only because I've never been able to port my email and 15 years of archives to anything else, and man have I tried. So for now I live with the fear that every update will break extensions again.

            I think the final nail in their coffin may be their surrender of the only real browser that ran on Android, and replacing it with "Daylight", which is just as dismal as all other Android browsers. I mean really, it's flabbergasting. They still had an extremely popular browser on one platform, and purposefully destroyed it. And ever since, even as their ratings plummeted from 5 to 4.3, they refuse to reverse course.
            Dunno, it's still may browser of choice. Pretty happy to give up some performance (which for me is barely noticeable) if that means running a less bloated and non-intrusive, non-tracking browser (which cannot be said of chrom* and derivatives).

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            • #26
              Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

              I agree with that. You know damn well people like to come here and act like Rust is the magic bullet that would solve all the world's computer errors.
              Where exactly did that happen? I have hard times believing anyone who's ever written more than ten lines of code would say such a thing.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by microcode View Post

                What do you mean?
                I mean that the browser avoids every link based on http to be accessed.
                Last edited by Azrael5; 19 April 2021, 06:36 AM.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Azrael5 View Post
                  I mean that the browser avoid every link based on http to be accessed.
                  I'm not even sure what you mean by that. Do you mean that it won't open an HTTP URL, or that it rewrites links to https?

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Azrael5 View Post

                    I mean that the browser avoid every link based on http to be accessed.
                    While there has been some (old, at this point) discussions about deprecating http and moving the web forward to https, that isn't really impacted one way or another by adding http3.

                    So http sites will still work the same way that they always have for now.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by microcode View Post

                      I'm not even sure what you mean by that. Do you mean that it won't open an HTTP URL, or that it rewrites links to https?
                      I mean that in both cases you mention, the browser opens just https pages. So I don't understand the relevance of http/3 protocol. Is this protocol safe such as https, or is it just an evolution of http deprecated protocol?

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