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  • Mez'
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    I might give it a spin when available.

    I like how they take user feedback and make it happen, how they try to empower the user in his/her preferred workflow (either keyboard-centric or mouse-centric).
    This is the correct mindset to adopt.

    My main complaints with Gnome 3 have always been 1. Gnome lacks basic options and 2. it is inefficient either with the keyboard or the mouse, and even with both together (although I'm more optimistic with touchpad gestures in Gnome 40). They acknowledge these deficiencies, if from there they can offer something slightly different that try to address these deficiencies, it's worth following up on their endeavor.

    I hope we can deactivate the tiling though. I am not a big fan of horizontal viewing angles. I'd rather avoid contorting my body/head in order to get my eyes in front of the focused window.

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  • gedgon
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    Originally posted by ms178 View Post
    I don't get it what people love about the GNOME desktop [...]
    Different people, different needs. I prefer GNOME because it's ready to use OOTB (it's sane defaults doesn't require two weeks of tinkering before is usable), stays out of the way, is simple, gets job done, is visually pleasing, is boring and yet modern, and way, way less buggy than Plasma. Long story short, GNOME is not perfect, but is the best option for me.

    PS. I was a happy KDE 3 user in my early years on Linux and then a very unhappy KDE 4 user, when I enjoyed wasting my time on never ending tweaking and fixing my desktop.
    Last edited by gedgon; 14 April 2021, 05:54 AM.

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  • lumks
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    Wasnt it the KDE Project who wanted something like this: Providing the technology to build whatever desktop on top of its technology without fragmenting the project?
    Years later the community is at this point, but it is GNOME, not KDE, with desktops like:Ubuntu Shell, Endless Shell, PHOSH, and now COSMIC that are extensions, where every single one of them also contributes to GNOME upstream. It's nice to see the community finally comming together, while still keep an own identity.

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  • Hans Bull
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    I stopped reading at "GNOME-based"

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  • DKJones
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    Sounds interesting. I've always wanted to try Pop OS because it looks beautiful, but GNOME...

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  • codewiz
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    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
    Amazing how many people don't read the links around here
    Which link? I couldn't find any mention of it being an extension in the blog post. Source code is also not available on System76's github.

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  • fafreeman
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    even though i like gnome 40 and the horizontal workspaces, i think gnome can fix a lot of their problems with application management if they allowed the dock to be shown on the desktop. i'm even running the gnome 40 git version of dash to dock. of all the complaints, it solves most of them. and seeing how system76 reported slightly over 50% of their users run dash to dock, its really telling how its a "feature" that gnome shouldn't be dragging their feet over.

    recently gnome came out with that mock up and its funny seeing the top bar moving to the bottom to "fix" the application menu. bring back a windows style "task bar." puzzles me because they don't have to go to such lengths. they can just allow the dock that's already there to be shown on the desktop... look no matter what gnome is going to either look like windows or mac. top bar = mac. bottom bar = windows. gnome should just deal with it and embrace it has a mac inspired feel. rather than trying to reinvent the wheel that causes them to make things more difficult in the name of "gnome philosophy" all to hide the fact its trying to be something else.

    you can be your own thing even if you are inspired by something else. there is only so many ideas out there for UI design. its like being mad that nothing has superseded the wheel.
    Last edited by fafreeman; 13 April 2021, 11:36 PM.

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  • sarmad
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    I prefer Gnome's unified activities view, but the other aspects of Cosmic are nice and promising. Glad they give you the option to pin the dock to any side rather than forcing a single configuration on all users like Gnome does, and also glad they are sticking to vertical workspaces. I hope they pay good attention to multi monitor setups as well; I hate how Gnome treats external monitors as not part of the workspace.

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  • nazar-pc
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    Hm, I have no DE as such for a long time, just Qtile + some components I need and this looked relatively interesting until it turned out to be just an extension with all of the usual GNOME drawbacks. Well, maybe next time...

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  • ThoreauHD
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    Used to use kde before all the weird plasmid things hit, then switched to cinnamon. I don't need popping out things and 4d puzzles. Just want to be able to launch a damn app and move shit around without hunting for it. Perhaps that's what S76's aim is here, which would be welcome.

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