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  • #21
    Originally posted by JPFSanders View Post

    Eventually all nagging silly issues on wayland environments will go away, slowly common solutions will be developed and agreed upon, new shared libraries such as what's going to happen with the EDID parsing, meaning that the likes of XFCE/MATE/SWAY/KDE etc will all have lots of nice stuff like "screensavers"

    All connoisseur/specialised desktops... desktops other than Gnome this is. Gnome will continue with their long traditional goal of making the life of their users miserable release after release.

    I'm sorry to be that blunt but there is no sign of intelligent life at Gnome's foundation.
    And yet Gnome still to this day is the default UI/UX/DE of of every major Linux distro that counts.

    ( Attention, Attention....bring mop and bucket to Aile 5 for cleanup of imminent melt down )

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    • #22
      Originally posted by JPFSanders View Post
      Its pernicious influence is now even corrupting XFCE.
      Can you please elaborate on that? What are you talking about?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by dragon321 View Post
        Sorry to break the illusion for you but probably most GNOME users won't agree with you. GNOME 40 opinions are rather positive than negative. Sure, there were some concerns about layout change but doesn't look like a big deal now. So what makes you think that GNOME makes "life of their users miserable" after updates? If you want to learn GNOME users opinion then I suggest visiting GNOME related forums, not KDE/other desktop forums.

        Oh yeah, how dare they not making traditional desktop following Windows 95 design principles. Somebody should force them to stop having their own design ideas in the name of free software! /s

        Meanwhile GNOME is still one of most popular Linux desktops.
        Great binary thinking there, truly a marvel of ones and zeroes, your reasoning: "because I do not like Gnome retarded decisions on ergonomic UI design and absurd paradigms of productivity" ergo: "I must want a replica of Windows95 as my desktop."

        Please let me take off my hat to you.

        Originally posted by dragon321 View Post
        Yeah, that's how free software works - common work on something. What exactly Cannonical fixed in GNOME architecture? Indeed they made some nice improvements but architecture is still there.
        Oh nothing there is nothing to fix in Gnome

        Cough: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...ed-Input-State

        Cough, cough (damn covid) https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/10/...ll-performance

        Cough, Blearhg https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/217

        Please...

        Originally posted by dragon321 View Post
        Clearly Linux desktop would have already defeat Windows and be most popular desktop OS if it wasn't for that meddling GNOME.
        Perhaps we could be in a much better position, linux desktops (Ubuntu) were making strides 10 years ago into public acceptance when Gnome2 was the de-facto Linux desktop and all of that came to a halt with Gnome 3.x whose fallout still raining today poisoning everything it touches.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by skerit View Post
          And also (at least on gnome and via displayport and when you have multiple screens) when a screen is turned off it is "disconnected" and all your windows shuffle around.
          What strange screens do you have?
          I have a Dell and a HP screen connected with DisplayPort to an nVidia-card, and have never the problem you describe unless I turn off the screens on the physical button. The Asus-screens I have before connected with HDMI acted in the same way.
          The reactions from them are the same when connected to my work laptop with intel gfx, and the Dell is connected with DP over USB-C (as that screen can work as both a dock and KVM), and the HP is connected with HDMI. As long as it is the computer triggering power saving mode, and not me myself turning off the monitor the computer still handles the screen as connected. Even when I change source on them.
          Really, the only way I can reproduce what you describe is by turning the screen off with the button, or disconnecting a cable.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

            You're right, that's why some companies have recalled devices with burnt-in OLED screens… oh wait.
            Did you read his second point? The only reason the CRTs did not turn off like Windows and Gnome do with modern screens was because the CRTs did not like turning itself off and on again, and was better off staying turned on.
            But you are right, that is a problem with OLEDs too! That is why the screen on you smartphone does not survive more then tops a year due to all the screen turning on and off to save battery.... Oh wait...

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            • #26
              Originally posted by JPFSanders View Post

              I did not know that, which body is responsible for the horrors that come from Gnome? I'm open minded to blame whoever needs to be blamed for the horrors they have inflicted on mankind.
              There is no "body" per say if you are thinking of a central authority. GNOME screensaver IIRC is maintained by a volunteer. Open minded people would simply choose to use a different desktop environment rather than spend time figuring out whom to blame for providing a free and open source desktop environment not specifically tailored to one's subjective tastes, I would imagine.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by RahulSundaram View Post
                Open minded people would simply choose to use a different desktop environment rather than spend time figuring out whom to blame for providing a free and open source desktop environment not specifically tailored to one's subjective tastes, I would imagine.
                My mind was opened when I first used the very first release of Gnome 3.0 years ago, so much I have been using other desktops since, it was easier to tweak and get used to anything else than Gnome.

                ATM I check every new Gnome release with no expectations at all, so far in 10 years it has managed to suck a little bit less than years ago but not by much, the little improvements came from outside Gnome to the point that Gnome ergonomics are a pita without extensions to achieve basic functionality like being able to enable the display of the minimise button or very advanced functionality never heard of before like adjusting fonts.

                Don't get me started on the window decorations and moving menus to buttons on the title-bar in random locations of the border.

                I've come to the point where I'm afraid of what new ideas come from the Gnome team because they're a disaster as they slowly pour and affect the entire Linux ecosystem.

                Gnome 3 has been around for roughly a decade and all I see they improve is the breakage of extensions (they excel at those), poor theme and text contrast, horrible ergonomics and less and less options in the files manager, eventually files will not allow you to do anything but double click on things.

                So help me with your wisdom please, shall I keep checking new Gnome releases or give up completely on it? Please enlighten me oh wise one.

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                • #28
                  This whole issue is an absolute gem. XD

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                  • #29
                    I switched to Wayland a few months ago and I do miss me some XScreenSaver. The boucing cows... the funky looking lock screen... I hope at least the individual screen savers themselves can be someday ported to Wayland. The monitor powering off isn't as fun to me as watching big 3D covid-19 viruses multiply on my screen, or the 3D "hack the Gibson" one referencing that movie Hackers

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by JPFSanders View Post

                      So help me with your wisdom please, shall I keep checking new Gnome releases or give up completely on it? Please enlighten me oh wise one.
                      I simply don't understand why you would obsess over something that doesn't match your preferences instead of moving on to something you enjoy. That is particularly odd.

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