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  • #61
    Originally posted by Nocifer View Post
    Thanks for reading, dear layman.
    I didn't recall to have requested a lecture over the least interest of my life: Gnome 3 and upper. Gnome 3 was so good that the community created 3 brand new desktop environment and resumed Gnome 2 into mate. Despite all the workforce that RH is able to tuck into Gnome, smaller teams with almost zero resources did more, and better, with less. Elementary, Budgie, Zorin even POP-Shell try to fix Gnome, have better usability and better ergonomic and do not blame people when thing are simply counter-intuitive.

    Someone wanted shift Gnome from a project into a product and things can just go worst. And what it is the point to have a DE that every six months break the ABI/API? Where is the stability? I am happy and productive with another solution that allows me to tailor my environment the way I need because it is designed to empower me not to restrict me.

    To finish, once Compiz was a reason to use Linux today Gnome 3(4,5,6 etc...) is a reason to not use it at all...
    Last edited by Danielsan; 25 March 2021, 01:20 PM.

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    • #62
      The final appearance of GNOME Shell in GNOME 40 has remained identical to the original mockups. Several individuals have spent some time on GitLab to discuss other mockups, some of which arguably interesting, but all of that has been largely ignored.
      To my eyes, this proves my point that the matter was settled before even going public.

      The new apps look nice, but Nautilus/GNOME Files has been massacred and I can't understand why even after looking at some relevant GitLab tickets.

      Let's hope the new paradigm actually brings more people to FOSS; I personally doubt it will.

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      • #63
        Does GNOME still uses 1 Core of the CPU and its built with Java? lmao

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        • #64
          Originally posted by vladimir86 View Post

          As far as I understand, workspace switching is not only done with gestures, but also keyboard shortcuts and keyboard+mouse via the scroll wheel. Actually there seems to be a HUGE improvement with multi monitors. Now you can switch workspaces easily on all monitors, no only the primary as in Gnome 3, so I understand you won' t need to pile up all applications on a monitor and leave the secondary one static.
          You are wrong. Gnome 3 allowed virtual workspaces on external monitors via a setting, and that didn't change in Gnome 40. Multi monitor support in Gnome 40 is degraded, not improved, with external monitors and virtual workspaces both sitting on the same axis, compared to the previous situation where physical screens sit on the horizontal axis while virtual ones sit on the vertical axis. It's amazing how so many people can't see what's wrong with workspaces and physical screens both sitting on the same axis.

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          • #65
            I just love all these anti-GNOME trolls with all the FUD they are spreading...

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Danielsan View Post
              Gnome 3 was so good that the community created 3 brand new desktop environment and resumed Gnome 2 into mate. Despite all the workforce that RH is able to tuck into Gnome, smaller teams with almost zero resources did more, and better, with less. Elementary, Budgie, Zorin even POP-Shell try to fix Gnome, have better usability and better ergonomic and do not blame people when thing are simply counter-intuitive.

              Someone wanted shift Gnome from a project into a product and things can just go worst. And what it is the point to have a DE that every six months break the ABI/API? Where is the stability? I am happy and productive with another solution that allows me to tailor my environment the way I need because it is designed to empower me not to restrict me.

              To finish, once Compiz was a reason to use Linux today Gnome 3(4,5,6 etc...) is a reason to not use it at all...
              All of that. Especially that. And obviously that (even if you don't mention the one you use, I can easily imagine how it empowers you more).
              Sometimes a like is not enough, and this deserves some further emphasis.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by MrCooper View Post
                Speaking as someone who actually used software cursor with GNOME Wayland for some time[0], I can assure you it's not really the same.
                It's definitely not better vs. using a software cursor on Windows.

                Originally posted by MrCooper View Post
                Due to amdgpu kernel driver bugs; maybe you're hitting that as well? Check
                Code:
                journalctl [email protected] -b0
                for cursor related messages.
                I can take another look.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post
                  I just love all these anti-GNOME trolls with all the FUD they are spreading...
                  No, they are not as amusing as they were in the past.
                  Where they cried the end of Gnome with the introduction Gnome 2.x
                  Where they bemoaned the introduction of anti-aliased fonts.
                  Scoffing at the introduction of udev and automatic mounting of external devices.
                  The screams of traitor and Judas when Xorg rose from the ashes of XFree86 development.
                  The hurrahs and proclaiming the ending of Gnome subservient to KDE 3.x, (as I liked to call it 'all your problems will be solved in the next point release' desktop) and the coming Linux desktop behemoth KDE 4.x
                  The silent retreat when KDE 4.x showed its colors. Next release will fix all the bugs, trust us again cried the Gnome hater/KDE aficionado
                  The very funny but predictable, putting the formerly too bad to be usable, Gnome 2.x, on a pedestal of perfection when Gnome 3.x saw the day of light.
                  The similar promise of the rise of XFCE after Gnome 3.x.
                  I saw all of it in the last 23 years of using Gnome as my main desktop. The current batch are pale clones of the great trolls of the past.

                  Just for laughs, here is a KDE developer view on KDE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHza5X2Jt2g
                  This must annoy the Gnome hater to no end.
                  Last edited by markus40; 25 March 2021, 04:25 PM.

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                  • #69
                    GNOME still uses Java and 1 Core of th CPU? lmao

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                    • #70
                      GNOME still uses Java and 1 Core of th CPU? lmao

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