GNOME 40 Alpha Released

[Brisse]

Back on topic, anyone know how well installing gnome from source uninstalls and going back to release version? Just do a reinstall using distro packages?

Not that I have a whole lot of experience with this, but I prefer to leave the distribution release version alone and install whatever I compile myself into /usr/local, then add

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/local/lib:/usr/local"

in /etc/environment.

That way, anything I put in /usr/local loads first, and if I encounter a problem I can just remove the one in /usr/local and the untouched release binaries will load up just like they normally would. This is especially handy if the graphical environment fails to load as it's easy to fix from the terminal, a remote ssh-session or even by chroot'ing into the system from a live-usb in case it doesn't boot.

[ix900]

Not that I have a whole lot of experience with this, but I prefer to leave the distribution release version alone and install whatever I compile myself into /usr/local, then add

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/local/lib:/usr/local"

in /etc/environment.

That way, anything I put in /usr/local loads first, and if I encounter a problem I can just remove the one in /usr/local and the untouched release binaries will load up just like they normally would. This is especially handy if the graphical environment fails to load as it's easy to fix from the terminal, a remote ssh-session or even by chroot'ing into the system from a live-usb in case it doesn't boot.

That's an interesting idea. Will have to look into that further. Thanks

Saved that. Probably won't test it on this unless I try it first in a vm or something. Guess I should do that anyway and see how both ways go.

[Nocifer]

From my experience, the worst part about running your own mailserver is keeping track of the latest anti-spam stuff of the big providers. Otherwise they won't accept your mails.

Well, to be honest, in my experience the worst part is the exact opposite: adjusting your security in such a way that bulk mail can be delivered to your server, but without compromising it so much that spam email can also pass through. I recently had to adjust my own server for exactly that reason, after realizing a bunch of automated emails never got delivered to me due to very strict security.

On the other hand, I've never (so far) experienced my emails being blocked by any major email provider. I think that if you're diligent in ensuring your server appears adequately safe and well maintained and up to date (i.e. having reverse DNS, dmarc, dkim, proper STARTTLS commands, etc) you won't experience any problems. Also, it may have helped that my domain is a .com one.

[pal666]

I'm thinking about ditching gmail next. It used to be that I could read my emails, click any link in the message and it would go directly to where the author of the message intended me to go. But now, I can see Google is actually re-writing the HTML of email messages so that all links go through Google's servers before being redirected to the final destination. That seems way too creepy to me. They're obviously tracking my reactions to emails, and if they're re-writing my incoming emails, how do I know they won't be changing the destinations or contents out for "Google approved" propaganda?

how do you know they didn't edit old mail and change destination of old direct links?

[pal666]

I already got it and it was weaker than a flu.

"weaker than flu which kills million people per year" is not necessarily weak enough

[pal666]

I have Outlook 365 (a requirement because of my job), and I have no adds. Interestingly enough, when I had a paid for Google account (because of a previous job) with full Google docs, Google classroom, and 20 gigs of Google storage, I still had "interesting" ads that popped up relating to what happened to be the current topics that were on that email account. While I am not a big fan of MicroSoft, I have never had that issue with my Outlook 365. I do not mind paying a fee for a service if it is good and it leaves me alone.

you mean you'd prefer ads for penis enlargement pills instead of your current topics?

[f0rmat]

you mean you'd prefer ads for penis enlargement pills instead of your current topics?

I do not get any ads with Outlook 365 - and as far as the penis enlargement, my wife is quite satisfied with things the way they are - and I have been married for over 20 years. But I really appreciate your concern over the status of my genitalia.

Ironically, I only received those kind of ads on my Google email that the high school paid for. I used to get them while I was teaching about STDs. When I did my instruction on drug abuse, I tended to get adds about drug rehabilitation programs. Maybe thing have changed because that was the last straw for me - especially sine it was supposedly a paid for account system.

And I prefer to receive no ads if I pay for something. That is why I was willing to pay for a phoronix membership - I like the content and I want to support Michael.. I currently live in the EU (with the GDRP) and run a Sophos UTM - I can block almost anything, but I am willing to pay for a service if it is worth a sh*t and assist with my workflow. Nothing Google has (either paid or free) is useful to me. And I have said, the Office365 is a requirement because I have to earn this thing called a "paycheck." It helps immensely with being a provider for my family. Google office suite simply does not cut it. The search engine, though comprehensive, requires me to scroll through the first ten entries because they are "sponsored" and many times have nothing to do with what I am looking for. For example, if I am looking for how a Mass Airflow Sensor works, I am not looking for where to buy a Mass Airflow Sensor - and that is what the first 6 or entries on Google showed me. I go to DuckDuckGo and I get none of that nonsense. Hell, even Bing did not have as many "sponsored" link at the front.

Again, I appreciate your concern over the status of my penis - you really are a true friend. To ease you mind further, I am well past 50 and I still do not need Viagra either.

[pal666]

I do not get any ads with Outlook 365

but you do get them from google. and without looking at you mail google will have to target average ads at you, so you should be thankful it reads your mail and tries to send relevant ads. otherwise you'll have to scroll through penis enlargement ads

[gbcox]

i think Ubuntu has the best move here. first release of Gnome40 will be Half Baked

I read an article that implied Ubuntu would be better off just switching to KDE because it was closer to what Unity provided, since the reason from moving away from Unity in the first place was to save $$$.

[Anvil]

I read an article that implied Ubuntu would be better off just switching to KDE because it was closer to what Unity provided, since the reason from moving away from Unity in the first place was to save $$$.

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/01/ubuntu-21-04-release-features