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  • arQon
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    Originally posted by elduderino View Post
    Shrug. Everyone complains that the toolkit isn't cross-platform enough so I take some extra time to fix that and I'm welcomed with useless posts like this. Good times.
    Jep, that sucks. :/

    There's value to having the POTENTIAL to be used cross-platform, even if the platform in question is one that "isn't interested in" OSS: it nearly always ends up helping point out iffy code etc. And there's value to it for OSS devs *in general* who use GTK for their apps: Firefox, Handbrake, and so on get an easier life creating and/or supporting builds on those platforms. (IDK if Handbrake uses GTK or not, it's just an example of a cross-platform tool that even IOS users might use).

    Maybe the dickishness is just from people who think the time would be better spent fixing bugs and lost functionality caused by the move from GTK2 to GTK3, who feel like they're "more important" than users of other platforms, or something like that. *shrug*.

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post

    Photoshop takes less than 30 seconds to start on my parents' computer (which is even older than where I ran GIMP on)

    Even Krita starts faster, but we're leaving the topic...
    I said "lol" because it was meant to be a joke. But I guess it comes down to platform then? 'Cause I have seen Marques Brownlee start Photoshop on macOS before M1 and it took forever to load, and he has pretty well-specced Macs...

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  • QwertyChouskie
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    Originally posted by Anarchy View Post

    If Apple doesn't provide support, documentation and drivers to run Linux on their hardware, this "project" is already dead and Apple doesn't really support Linux. This is just some poor sod who wants to earn a few bucks while having fun. It's not a serious project, just more crap for the apple fans on r/apple.

    What's the point of improving the support of gtk4 for the mac? Sounds like a fun exercise, but where's the goat?
    Agreed, Apple doesn't support Linux, but that's different than actively blocking it.

    Anyways, the reason to improve GTK4 on macOS is the same reason you want to improve any open-source application or framework on Windows or macOS: Open frameworks that support all OSes well get more applications built using them, applications built using them are more likely to be cross-platform, and users that primarily use cross-platform applications are more likely to be willing to switch OSes as most of the applications they already use are supported out-of-the-box on said OS.

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  • tildearrow
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    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

    Still faster than Photoshop, lol
    Photoshop takes less than 30 seconds to start on my parents' computer (which is even older than where I ran GIMP on)

    Even Krita starts faster, but we're leaving the topic...

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
    What about better Windows support? GIMP takes 10 minutes to start on Windows.
    Still faster than Photoshop, lol

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  • Anarchy
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    Originally posted by QwertyChouskie View Post

    Apple explicitly allows booting unsigned binaries on the new Apple Silicon-based Macs. Linux doesn't currently support the hardware (obviously Apple themselves have no reason to port it, and the hardware was just released), but there's an effort underway to get standard Linux running on the new Apple Silicon-based Macs: https://www.patreon.com/marcan (actually a really good technical read even if you don't care about Apple at all.)

    There's plenty of legitimate bad things about Apple (see e.g. the App Store monopoly), but "made it impossible to boot Linux on their new laptops" isn't one of them.
    If Apple doesn't provide support, documentation and drivers to run Linux on their hardware, this "project" is already dead and Apple doesn't really support Linux. This is just some poor sod who wants to earn a few bucks while having fun. It's not a serious project, just more crap for the apple fans on r/apple.

    What's the point of improving the support of gtk4 for the mac? Sounds like a fun exercise, but where's the goat?

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  • Sonadow
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    Do people on macOS even use software that isn't created with the native Cocoa toolkit?

    I have encountered so many Mac users who simply refuse to use software that is not written using Cocoa just because 'it looks different'.

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  • tildearrow
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    Originally posted by marccollin View Post

    it's time to change you pentium 200mmx
    it was an Intel Core i7-3610QM :l

    it would take 1 day on a pentium of that era

    hardware does not solve software problems
    that's Windows mentality

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  • re:fi.64
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    Originally posted by horizonbrave View Post

    Mate, I guess most of us use Linux and don't buy Macs! With all of the problems on the Linux desktop I'm actually even offended someone care about porting shit to MacOs. Make sense now?
    Imagine being offended that a cross platform toolkit is improving being cross platform.

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  • marccollin
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    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
    What about better Windows support? GIMP takes 10 minutes to start on Windows.
    it's time to change you pentium 200mmx

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