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    horizonbrave
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  • horizonbrave
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    Originally posted by elduderino View Post

    Shrug. Everyone complains that the toolkit isn't cross-platform enough so I take some extra time to fix that and I'm welcomed with useless posts like this. Good times.
    Mate, I guess most of us use Linux and don't buy Macs! With all of the problems on the Linux desktop I'm actually even offended someone care about porting shit to MacOs. Make sense now?

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  • Jumbotron
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  • Jumbotron
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    Originally posted by timofonic View Post
    No Vulkan, DirectX and Metal? Rally?

    GTK4 is taking ages to materialize.

    Will Gimp be ported to GTK4 before 2022?
    Other than bitching....what are YOU doing to help the GTK4 version of GIMP being released before 2022 ?

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  • Jumbotron
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  • Jumbotron
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    Originally posted by _r00t- View Post
    Most useless information for this month.
    Most useless post since Phoronix began.

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  • QwertyChouskie
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  • QwertyChouskie
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    Originally posted by ElectricPrism View Post
    Apple is no longer a Platform -- they are a Digital Jail that prey on the technologically illiterate and the vein. Seeing how they've treated OpenGL, made it impossible to boot Linux on their new laptops and actively discouraged programmer innovation I couldn't care less if GTK support for macOS was sterilized from the codebase all-together.
    Apple explicitly allows booting unsigned binaries on the new Apple Silicon-based Macs. Linux doesn't currently support the hardware (obviously Apple themselves have no reason to port it, and the hardware was just released), but there's an effort underway to get standard Linux running on the new Apple Silicon-based Macs: https://www.patreon.com/marcan (actually a really good technical read even if you don't care about Apple at all.)

    There's plenty of legitimate bad things about Apple (see e.g. the App Store monopoly), but "made it impossible to boot Linux on their new laptops" isn't one of them.

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  • ElectricPrism
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  • ElectricPrism
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    Apple is no longer a Platform -- they are a Digital Jail that prey on the technologically illiterate and the vein. Seeing how they've treated OpenGL, made it impossible to boot Linux on their new laptops and actively discouraged programmer innovation I couldn't care less if GTK support for macOS was sterilized from the codebase all-together.

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  • oleid
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  • oleid
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    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
    What about better Windows support? GIMP takes 10 minutes to start on Windows.
    That has nothing to do with GTK+, but with Gimp's architecture. Plugins are processes. And registering those plugins is slow on windows.

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  • ehansin
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  • ehansin
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    Yeah, I came to this thread to understand the GTK on Windows situation. I am not an expert, so I may be bit ignorant of things. It seamed like GTK2 on Windows worked, but I have seen multiple references that GTK3 on Windows was maybe more difficult - is that true? And if so, are things looking better for GTK4 on Windows?

    I ask, because there are applications out there using GTK that are intended to be cross-platform. If that is the case, it would be nice if the toolkit (i.e. GTK) worked on those various platforms. I have been curious about this for a while (GTK2 vs. GTK3 vs. GTK4 on Windows), so figured might be a good chance to ask. Thanks!

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  • polarathene
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  • polarathene
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    Originally posted by elduderino View Post

    Shrug. Everyone complains that the toolkit isn't cross-platform enough so I take some extra time to fix that and I'm welcomed with useless posts like this. Good times.
    GTK on Windows and macOS were bad experiences I had many years ago. So seeing improvement for cross-platform support is great, thank you!

    Many don't understand the amount of time and effort that can go into making what may seem like minor improvements. Speaking from experience with my own open-source contributions (which are likely far less worthwhile), I'm not presently a GTK user (unless there's no decent Qt equivalent), but I can definitely appreciate this work and look forward to GTK4 in the future

    I'm sure many others appreciate your contributions too.

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  • GreatLord
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  • GreatLord
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    I like gtk but GIMP is slow even on linux and it using gtk2 and python2 last time i checked they have problem port eveything to python3 and alot old plugin from 3d party is writen in python2. And alot is missing in GIMP so i have move to Krita

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  • eszlari
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  • eszlari
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    Too bad this won't help Inkscape with their macOS performance problems unitl they have moved to GTK4:

    https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/issues/1614

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