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Last edited by duby229; 29 November 2020, 05:05 PM.
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Originally posted by duby229 View Post
Oh yeah, we all remember that garbage Optimus... I sure do...
GPL violations are not BS, they are real and they are serious.
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Originally posted by birdie View Post
For an absolute majority of Linux users that's BS, plain and simple and if NVIDIA using internal kernel APIs doesn't allow you to sleep at night, my condolences. Perhaps you have no real issues in your life to fret over such things. They are not stealing GPL code. They are not selling or offering proprietary software which incorporates GPL code. Perhaps you need to check your understanding of GPL.
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Originally posted by duby229 View Post
Perhaps you need to recognize that the kernel uses a GPLv2 Only license for -exactly- that reason. They incorporate kernel modifications in their binary driver, which they do in fact distribute. Obvious GPL violation. It's not BS and it -is- serious.
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Originally posted by birdie View PostFor an absolute majority of Linux users that's BS, plain and simple and if NVIDIA using internal kernel APIs doesn't allow you to sleep at night, my condolences. Perhaps you have no real issues in your life to fret over such things. They are not stealing GPL code. They are not selling or offering proprietary software which incorporates GPL code. Perhaps you need to check your understanding of GPL.
Their drivers only do the minimum effort, and they are doing so violating the spirit and the letter of the GPL, most people do not realize how badly the nvidia drivers interact with a Linux system, they are stuck in the past in the way they interface with X and the Kernel in terms of display (compute is another matter).
Birdie, the flying menace, why are you here just to suffer? It is an honest question.
You're not a Linux user, at most you boot Linux once a week and I'm not sure even why you bother yourself and us.
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Originally posted by birdie View Post
Citations needed.
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These are Linus' own words about the matter. He ranted about it numerous times, I could find more links if you want me to.
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Originally posted by birdie View Post
I haven't had a single Firefox crash in the past at least three years.
Oh, you're using a toy graphical server for those who like experiments. And on top of that you're using a highly unstable distro. Case closed, sorry, I don't give a fuck. I prefer to use software solutions which offer the best reliability and the most functions - Wayland is anything but. And that's X.org for me.
And is not just Arch, Pop OS and Fedora show the same behavior for me the only thing i don't have to test is an Intel IGP.
And yet the point still stands, Chromium derivatives are faster and more stable and are even more advanced that Firefox(Vulkan is working great already on all derivatives releases).
Another issue i noticed is that Firefox rendering on Linux at least seem to clog hard the first render on big DOMs and animated GIF/videos on heavy sites simply stop loading after few scrolls down(9gag for example) whereas Chromium just pop things on the screen for me, also when you inspect a big DOM Firefox suffer a lot to render, sure chromium also take some hits but is visually a lot faster
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Originally posted by duby229 View Post
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