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  • ngraham
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    Trolls don't starve, they escalate until banned.

    I'll go find something productive to do.

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  • MadCatX
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    Originally posted by ngraham View Post
    You got me. I am paid hundred million dollars by the KDE e.V. every year. In exchange for this princely sum, I do all KDE development myself; I personally implemented KUserFeedback in a manner that is as intrusive and privacy-destroying as possible, and I made a fake GUI just to frustrate people like you. I spend all my time laughing about the kind of porn that our users like to watch. My secret goal is to control the entire world through spying on computer users. I started with a niche FOSS project whose source code is easily audited because I like a challenge. Alas, your expert detective work was too much for me, and you uncovered my nefarious scheme from your home country of Poland! Shall I continue?
    Come on, Nate, you are better than this. Just leave the obvious troll alone until he starves.

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  • Termy
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    Originally posted by ngraham View Post
    You got me. I am paid hundred million dollars by the KDE e.V. every year. In exchange for this princely sum, I do all KDE development myself; I personally implemented KUserFeedback in a manner that is as intrusive and privacy-destroying as possible, and I made a fake GUI just to frustrate people like you. I spend all my time laughing about the kind of porn that our users like to watch. My secret goal is to control the entire world through spying on computer users. I started with a niche FOSS project whose source code is easily audited because I like a challenge. Alas, your expert detective work was too much for me, and you uncovered my nefarious scheme from your home country of Poland! Shall I continue?
    don't feed the troll is a common saying
    And while i agree with your opinion about calling out bad behaviour, personal threats can backfire pretty quickly, regardless of the intention.

    The only part about Securitex' post worth reacting to is the claim that telemetry is still collected despite setting it to off. As he just claimed that without providing any detail on how he came to that idea, it might in the best case be just missing user competence instead of a nefarious trolling attempt

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  • ngraham
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    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
    This week I got a surprise early birthday present, a 55" 4K TV to replace my 43" 1080p, and, well, between the extra 12" and higher resolution...I dunno...it just did not feel the same. It's hard to put words to it, but no amount of scaling, tweaking settings, etc could make my old, preferred setup feel right. Same setup, different screens, completely different experience and feel.

    I think I'm going to have to rethink my entire setup and turn my Plasma desktop into something like a GNOME clone. I feel dirty saying that, but I have way too much usable space now and what GNOME does seems to work better with 4K better than Plasma -- with my usual out of the box, minimal tweaking setup where I only have to change the menu and theme. Well, that's my Plasma experience for the week.
    I suspect you're running into the scaling-on-x11 problem: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356446. Everything will look much nicer if you set `PLASMA_USE_QT_SCALING=1` and restart Plasma, or use Wayland (where this is done by default).

    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
    ngraham I was reading the comments where you said:



    That piques my curiosity so I have to ask, why not? Why can't y'all fork an open source project and use it for KDE if y'all actually need it? And not even SDDM, just anything in general.
    It's not that we literally can't, it's that this would be quite rude and damage our social relationships with other people, and we don't want to do this because we're nice and we value a healthy community. Forking someone else's project with the intention of developing it yourself under new maintainership is the nuclear option. You are basically saying that you have no confidence in the project's existing leadership or technical base, you are unwilling to work with existing contributors to improve the situation within the existing structures, and you think you could do a better job yourself.

    This can be appropriate when there are no existing contributors because the project has become abandoned. In this case, forking amounts to rescuing the project, even though in my opinion it's still a sub-optimal solution compared to resuscitating the project within its own community and on its existing infrastructure and home (I admit that this is a debatable opinion). But forking an active project just because you don't like it's direction, velocity, or level of activity is the FOSS equivalent of a coup d'etat. It's a highly aggressive and antisocial action that is likely to earn you scorn and disrespect within the community--at least among those who understand the social dynamics of the FOSS world. And even if you pull it off, you're likely to ultimately fail at achieving your goals anyway, because you sever the possibility of having a productive working relationship with the original authors and contributors who are sensitive to bullies.

    So IMO that's the biggest argument against forking SDDM into a KDE project without consulting the existing maintainer. Everything changes of course if the maintainer is approached with this idea and voluntarily agrees to it.

    Fortunately, in general none of this is ever needed in the first place. KDE software has many other non-KDE, non-Qt dependencies in addition to SDDM, such as xorg/wayland, sql, pam, exiv2, and so on. We don't need for all of these software projects to be developed under a KDE umbrella to use them in our software.

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  • theriddick
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    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
    , but I have way too much usable space now
    Its called adjust scaling. System settings, display and monitor, global scale, set to 150% or something.

    Oddly enough scaling doesn't work too well under Gnome with NVIDIA cards, it ends up messing the viewport/resolution up for applications which get mighty confused., so you end up needing to do font scaling instead for GNOME which isn't ideal.

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  • ngraham
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    You got me. I am paid hundred million dollars by the KDE e.V. every year. In exchange for this princely sum, I do all KDE development myself; I personally implemented KUserFeedback in a manner that is as intrusive and privacy-destroying as possible, and I made a fake GUI just to frustrate people like you. I spend all my time laughing about the kind of porn that our users like to watch. My secret goal is to control the entire world through spying on computer users. I started with a niche FOSS project whose source code is easily audited because I like a challenge. Alas, your expert detective work was too much for me, and you uncovered my nefarious scheme from your home country of Poland! Shall I continue?

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  • birdie
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    Originally posted by Securitex
    How amazingly everyone supports lies and spyware by Graham. Interesting circle coming from KDE e.v. How much are you paid to protect spyware?

    "How do I stop KDE from spying? When I put the slider to the left the data is still gathered. Its called kuserfeedback. But its not me who gathers the data and I cannot turned it off. "Trust us, we spy on you, you cannot turn it off, but don't worry, it does not send anything" is not an answer but the blatant lie. It should be called KSpywareTelemetry instead of kuserfeedback because user has no control over what data is gathered and cannot turn it off, nor was he even asked in the first place if he wants it. The very definition of SPYWARE. "

    So KDE clones windows shortcuts (made after Windows programs names), but renames software and make these windows shortcuts clone ridiculous, then clones windows and claims its good, while it hinders usability big time, then adds spayware and tells its users fault (naming it userfeedback and blatantly lying that its opt-in, while user cannot turn it off. On top of that Nathan Graham even bothered to create FAKE slider to fool users that this slider turns off spaying. No it doesn't. Graham still spies on users regardless of the fake slider setup. Not to mention YOU CANNOT uninstall this spyware. Its the very definition of the spyware). And all that is good.

    First we have seen renaming spyware to "telemetry", then, thanks to Nathan Graham, it went even more ridiculous, when hen named spyware after user and added the word feedback. And on top of that he blatantly stated on the kde website "its opt in". So how it is now: user does not have to click anything and is spied. User is NOT asked if he wants this spyware on his computer and yet its called by Graham "opt-in". On top of that user CANNOT uninstall this spyware. Its hard-coded.
    And to add more ridiculousness in the face of users: Graham created FAKE slider GUI. Regardless of its position, he still spies on us and the data is still gathered. Amazing.

    How about I put a video camera in you home, fake turn off button and will call it Nateuserfeedback? And I will tell you. DOn't worry, I do not spy on you, you are a troll, it doesn't send anything. How about such a video camera in your home? But yet everyone defends it because its on a computer. Why?
    You should start wearing a tinfoil hat immediately and stop using computers or any devices connected to the Internet. It's either your ISP or the government who knows all the websites that you visit and how often you do that, and what type of porn you prefer. And even if you give up on the Internet, all your friends and relatives are being watched 24x7. Also you should leave your city because CCTVs are everywhere.
    Last edited by birdie; 08 November 2020, 12:08 PM.

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  • skeevy420
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    This week I got a surprise early birthday present, a 55" 4K TV to replace my 43" 1080p, and, well, between the extra 12" and higher resolution...I dunno...it just did not feel the same. It's hard to put words to it, but no amount of scaling, tweaking settings, etc could make my old, preferred setup feel right. Same setup, different screens, completely different experience and feel.

    I think I'm going to have to rethink my entire setup and turn my Plasma desktop into something like a GNOME clone. I feel dirty saying that, but I have way too much usable space now and what GNOME does seems to work better with 4K better than Plasma -- with my usual out of the box, minimal tweaking setup where I only have to change the menu and theme. Well, that's my Plasma experience for the week.

    ngraham I was reading the comments where you said:

    If you wanted SDDM to be an official KDE project, you would probably want to talk to the primary maintainer about that. It’s not like KDE devs can grab a project and turn it into a KDE project all on our own.
    That peaks my curiosity so I have to ask, why not? Why can't y'all fork an open source project and use it for KDE if y'all actually need it? And not even SDDM, just anything in general.

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  • smotad
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    I would like to point out that some of the shortcuts are based on a English language POV. In Spanish, Desktop = Escritorio . So some may find more intuitive the Win + E combo for showing the desktop.

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  • theriddick
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    I don't think Plasma5.20 went over well with NVIDIA users, going by reddit and my own experiences. I tried to install it and got a broken desktop login, meh.

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