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  • #21
    Originally posted by JackLilhammers View Post

    Yeah, sure, that makes perfect sense.
    But why stopping at Kde? There are many other projects that need True Freedomâ„¢!
    Let's rewrite everything written in Qt with a better and truly free toolkit!
    Do you have any suggestions?
    https://www.copperspice.com/
    https://www.copperspice.com/docs/cs_.../timeline.html

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    • #22
      KDE developers BTFO!

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      • #23
        I tried to use it because it's interesting, but Qt seems easier and cleaner.
        Also CopperSpice has no python bindings

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        • #24
          Originally posted by JackLilhammers View Post

          Yeah, sure, that makes perfect sense.
          But why stopping at Kde? There are many other projects that need True Freedomâ„¢!
          Let's rewrite everything written in Qt with a better and truly free toolkit!
          Do you have any suggestions?
          Did you just ignore a legitimate concern to make a stupid, unfunny joke? Qt is very much in power to lock KDE out whenever they want. Might be just a matter of time.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by angrypie View Post

            Did you just ignore a legitimate concern to make a stupid, unfunny joke? Qt is very much in power to lock KDE out whenever they want. Might be just a matter of time.
            How would Qt do that with the source code readily available and GPL licensed?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by angrypie View Post

              Did you just ignore a legitimate concern to make a stupid, unfunny joke? Qt is very much in power to lock KDE out whenever they want. Might be just a matter of time.
              I think I might have.
              It's been a matter of time for 24 years.
              Based on this I'm legitimately not very concerned.

              PS: That doesn't mean ignoring some manager's bad ideas, but I'm not worried about Kde. At all
              PPS: This reminds me of the whole paranoia around .Net, Mono, and C#.
              Spoiler alert, Mono was not a trap, .Net Core is open source and will become the only .Net, and C# is awesome

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              • #27
                Originally posted by carewolf View Post

                Branched out? It is where it started! It is older than C++98
                I know, but today we do have modern C++. So I'd avoid using Qt when they intersect. As above, in my opinion Qt is fine for a GUI toolkit, but not when it's used for libstdc++ replacement today which is what Roman pointed out in the past was one of the issues.
                Last edited by shmerl; 28 September 2020, 08:14 PM.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by bug77 View Post

                  How would Qt do that with the source code readily available and GPL licensed?
                  By shifting the burden of maintaining the toolkit to the KDE team? Maybe some lawsuits for good measure.

                  They don't need to forcibly kick them out and slam the door. Microsoft has killed competitors indirectly since forever and it worked wonders for them.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by JackLilhammers View Post

                    I think I might have.
                    It's been a matter of time for 24 years.
                    Based on this I'm legitimately not very concerned.

                    PS: That doesn't mean ignoring some manager's bad ideas, but I'm not worried about Kde. At all
                    PPS: This reminds me of the whole paranoia around .Net, Mono, and C#.
                    Spoiler alert, Mono was not a trap, .Net Core is open source and will become the only .Net, and C# is awesome
                    Seems you also ignored their most recent move of restricting GPL releases.

                    .NET and C# aimed to kill Java though, it never had anything to do with Linux specifically. It wouldn't do much harm anyway, as it became pretty much one more language in an already huge selection.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by shmerl View Post

                      I know, but today we do have modern C++. So I'd avoid using Qt when they intersect. As above, in my opinion Qt is fine for a GUI toolkit, but not when it's used for libstdc++ replacement today which is what Roman pointed out in the past was one of the issues.
                      As I said, those parts are being removed or made into just a syntax wrapper. The parts that remain are significantly different from the standard library.

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