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  • #81
    Originally posted by leech View Post
    It's Deprecate!
    Yeah I read that last night, that in essence they want to completely ditch Xorg. Which we all know is the inevitable thing to do, but at the same time gaming for the most part only works in X. And I don't think certain other things are even sorted yet to work under Wayland. I should see how well Wayland works on older hardware at some point.
    * sentence structure/grammar

    True but there is still some time. Making wayland default fixed a lot of issues. Now, its mainly down to applications to wire things up the new way: wayland interface (e.g. firefox, wine and games), xdg-desktop-portal and pipewire for screensharing/audio/video, etc.

    One that I'm quite curious is how they will handle Nvidia as EGLstreams is effectively dead. Maybe they'll just map GBM over Vulkan similar to OpenGL over Vulkan. Alternatively, they could just let Nvidia figure it out; or move the entire thing to Vulkan, which is likely the long-term strategy anyway.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Spam View Post
      They must be taking their lead from OpenSUSE, which went from 13.2 to 42.1. 42.2 and 42.3 followed, then it was back to 15.0.
      Thats a LEAP
      I could make the argument that anyone who doesn't take a step back sometimes is a close-minded cave dweller who can only look and operate in one direction. ;-)

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      • #83
        Originally posted by pal666 View Post
        in what world 3.40 is more intuitive than 40?
        Semantic versioning is very intuitive, you dumb fsck, especially when your project is already using it. 40 is just a random number that means nothing, or was picked because it most closely resembles 4.0, which is what they should have used instead of adopting moronic web browser version schemes.
        Last edited by DanL; 19 September 2020, 12:24 AM.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by uxmkt View Post
          I could make the argument that anyone who doesn't take a step back sometimes is a close-minded cave dweller who can only look and operate in one direction. ;-)


          I was referring to openSUSE LEAP

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          • #85
            Originally posted by DanL View Post
            Semantic versioning is very intuitive
            for whom? what random user will prefer undecipherable string to plain number?
            Originally posted by DanL View Post
            especially when your project is already using it
            project just increments second number by 2 every 6 months. which is pointless and more complicated than incrementing first number
            Originally posted by DanL View Post
            40 is just a random number that means nothing
            it's the meaningful part of 3.40 which itself really meant nothing
            Originally posted by DanL View Post
            it most closely resembles 4.0, which is what they should have used instead of adopting moronic web browser version schemes.
            don't you think adding dots in arbitrary places is more moronic than not adding them?
            Last edited by pal666; 19 September 2020, 11:32 AM.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by pal666 View Post
              for whom? what random user will prefer undecipherable string to pain number?
              project just increments second number by 2 every 6 months. which is pointless and more complicated than incrementing first number
              it's the meaningful part of 3.40 which itself really meant nothing
              don't you think adding dots in arbitrary places is more moronic than not adding them?
              And multiplying it by 10 is different because...? Fractions scare you...?

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Weasel View Post
                And multiplying it by 10 is different because...?
                where do you imagine multiplication between 3.40 and 40?
                Last edited by pal666; 19 September 2020, 11:34 AM.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by pal666 View Post
                  where do you imagine multiplication between 3.40 and 40?
                  4.0 vs. 40

                  for whom? what random user will prefer undecipherable string to plain number?
                  don't you think adding dots in arbitrary places is more moronic than not adding them?
                  Semantic versioning is consistent and the numbers and dots have meaning (MAJOR.Minor.patch).
                  What does 40 mean? Nothing, except maybe "This was supposed to be 4.0, but we didn't want people to think GTK and GNOME are the same thing, so we removed the dot."

                  project just increments second number by 2 every 6 months.
                  If doing strict time-based releases, then a scheme like Mesa's might make sense.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by DanL View Post
                    4.0 vs. 40
                    moron, 4.0 is result of your imagination. i gave you real world value 3.40
                    Originally posted by DanL View Post
                    Semantic versioning is consistent and the numbers and dots have meaning (MAJOR.Minor.patch).
                    What does 40 mean?
                    moron, what does 3 mean? what makes you think 40 doesn't qualify as major? what use have millions of gnome users of this meaning?
                    Originally posted by DanL View Post
                    If doing strict time-based releases, then a scheme like Mesa's might make sense.
                    if you don't know which timelines are followed by project, maybe you shouldn't open your mouth in the first place?

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by pal666 View Post
                      moron, 4.0 is result of your imagination. i gave you real world value 3.40
                      4.0 would be next after since they change major version moron.
                      Originally posted by pal666 View Post
                      moron, what does 3 mean?
                      Major version 3.
                      Originally posted by pal666 View Post
                      what makes you think 40 doesn't qualify as major?
                      It does, but where's the other 36 major versions that got lost in time?
                      Originally posted by pal666 View Post
                      what use have millions of gnome users of this meaning?
                      They know if it has an overhaul or not. Some projects (like Wine) increment major version every year now, but they do extensive regression tests before they release a new major version, since a new stable wine version comes along with it. Of course, between major versions you have a lot of new features, that's why they're major versions (if you consider only stable versions). That's what major versions are for.

                      Actually cringe, and you call yourself a software developer. Go back to your toy projects.

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