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Originally posted by dragon321 View Post
It would be hard for them because they have less developers than GNOME. If I recall correctly they stated on GitHub they will keep eyes on Mutter improvements. I wonder if it's possible to port Cinnamon Shell to Mutter without massive rewrite.
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Mutter is already "modular" - Gnome shell is a plugin for it.
As for Cinnamon, they need to rebase both their mutter and gnome-shell forks. If they cant keep up, they need to return to being a set of extensions on top of gnome shell. otherwise they are letting their users down.
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Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
I thought Muffin was going to use Mir? In that case, it would also require rewriting Mutter to support Mir. That would be a real hassle.
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Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
I thought Muffin was going to use Mir? In that case, it would also require rewriting Mutter to support Mir. That would be a real hassle.
Last time I read about it a few years ago Canonical wanted to salvage the project by focussing on IoT hardware. But I don't think that turned out well either.
When Canonical laid off a big chunk of people a few years ago, the Mir team and the Unity 8 desktop team had to bear almost all of it. So I would consider Mir dead.
Check their website out:
Mir is the fast, open and secure display server to unlock next-generation user experiences. Mir runs on a range of Linux powered devices including traditional desktops, IoT and embedded products.
Their latest stuff is from june 2018, and they were already mentioning Wayland in their articles.
That's because they changed Mir from being a competitor protocol to a set of Wayland helper libraries. Lulz.Last edited by Degra; 02 September 2020, 02:43 PM.
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Originally posted by Degra View PostCanonical has already buried Mir a long time ago. -- Their latest stuff is from june 2018, and they were already mentioning Wayland in their articles.
That's because they changed Mir from being a competitor protocol to a set of Wayland helper libraries. Lulz.
It is quite useless to read every month how Mutter is receiving yet more patches to fix its obvious performance issues. It is frustrating that we don't even really have monthly news about Kwin making actual progress with Wayland. It's sad that smaller community-driven projects like Cinnamon will never be able to make the transition unless they throw away all their own work and revert to upstream Mutter code. (I feel XFCE will have to do something similar.)
If there was one solid standard implementation, we would not have this utter mess in our hands. Wayland would be here in 2021, not maybe 2023 on one DE and possibly 2025 on another.
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144Hz What the hell are "distributors" and what do they have to do with DEs? Only Gnome is using Mutter, and AFAIK nobody else has even considerations about switching to it. I don't care what some random group of irrelevant people think.
Besides Mutter does not qualify, really, not in its current state. At least on Arch it has got some serious dependencies to Gnome libraries and even the Gnome desktop environment: gnome-desktop, gnome-settings-daemon, dconf. And of course GTK. My hunch is that Mutter is basically written in GTK and cannot be decoupled without rewriting it altogether.Last edited by curfew; 03 September 2020, 01:03 AM.
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