GNOME Shell + Mutter Off To A Good Start For Summer 2020

[gedgon]

Brutal critique of Ubuntu 20.04 and Gnome today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sez8qPipGbc
50% cpu usage just to move a small window around.

Let me guess, NVIDIA? RX560, i5 2500 (CPU from 2011!) and it's about 12% of 1 core, and there is an additional few percent for FullHD at 60fps screen recording - sorry about that.

Proof: https://streamable.com/ury9jc or https://youtu.be/G5BJtWeCc1o

[MrCooper]

I did manage to setup different framerate support with Compton, [...]

A compositor on Xorg cannot do this at all.

[Volta]

Why there's no forum thread regarding variable refresh rate support? Is someone jealous? Oh, and it's Wayland only feature.

[cynical]

Brutal critique of Ubuntu 20.04 and Gnome today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sez8qPipGbc
50% cpu usage just to move a small window around.

So I just tried the same thing and didn’t see more than 20% cpu usage. This is on Intel graphics and Wayland though.

[Vistaus]

i7-7700k with nvidia on debian bullseye and i get 29% tops in gnome - xfce got 60% tops.

That is still waaaay too much. Now, I'm not one of the "every MB or Hz counts!!!" guys, but 29% just for moving a window is ridiculous.

[Vistaus]

Looks like FUD or at least misleading. Can't reproduce that on Fedora 32. CPU usage on top shows 17-20%ish (AMD GPU).

Always funny when people say stuff like that. That's like saying "I can't reproduce COVID-19, so it's FUD".

Don't get me wrong: I'm NOT saying the person who created that video is right, I'm just saying that a bug doesn't have to hit everyone, so calling it "FUD" is overreacting.

[aufkrawall]

I'd be surprised if it was substantially above ~3% with Nvidia & kwin-lowlatency.

[Vistaus]

I'd be surprised if it was substantially above ~3% with Nvidia & kwin-lowlatency.

In fact, even with kwin_x11 (i.e. not lowlatency) on Deepin 20, I cannot get it above 5% and only if I dramatically shake a window while moving. With normal moving, it's about 2%.

[angrypie]

Always funny when people say stuff like that. That's like saying "I can't reproduce COVID-19, so it's FUD".

Don't get me wrong: I'm NOT saying the person who created that video is right, I'm just saying that a bug doesn't have to hit everyone, so calling it "FUD" is overreacting.

What a stupid analogy. You clearly don't know a thing about infectiology.

It's FUD because he didn't disclose his hardware and drivers, and yet assume everyone is or will be affected by that bug if they use GNOME, which is the very definition of FUD. If you read the rest of this thread, you'll see I'm not the only one who questioned it.

"GNOME will use 100% CPU under this or that condition, I reported a bug" = correct
"GNOME sucks, it will abuse your CPU no matter what, use our minimalist/non-systemd/redpilled niche distro" = FUD, and also propaganda.

[Almindor]

It's interesting how Gnome users don't even hide their disdain for anyone not running the absolute latest, fastest hardware.

I've always been a minimalist. But 800mb is really not that horrible. Start up a browser to see what happens.

800mb isn't good but it's not terrible either. Look at what other OS-es take after boot. Gnome was never meant to be lightweight. It's not supposed to be heavyweight either (we have KDE for that :P) but it's supposed to be featureful.