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  • #31
    Originally posted by 240Hz View Post

    The majority of Gnome devs do not use Linux or the Gnome desktop enviroment. Majority of them use macbooks. They dont care since they dont need to live with the consequences of bugs in software that they dont use
    So you want so say that most Gnome developers use proprietary software on proprietary hardware to write open source ? Sounds good.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by 240Hz View Post

      The majority of Gnome devs do not use Linux or the Gnome desktop enviroment. Majority of them use macbooks. They dont care since they dont need to live with the consequences of bugs in software that they dont use
      wait...someone is working on an opensource project whilst beeing not user of it. im sorry, have you cought to much of tulsa rally spirit?

      they might have macbooks. But you know that the intermediate linux user is able to install linux on those machines
      Last edited by CochainComplex; 06-26-2020, 02:45 PM.

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      • #33
        All these optimizations are issues that people who understand how programs run. People who have worked with asm more than 5 seconds and saw how even a few more routines in a loop bog their processors down would have kept that in mind and known not to fall in to these issues because of it. When you program willy nilly to a goal on machines with so much hardware that even your mistakes don't manifest easily, and also don't exactly understand how the code you wrote actually works on a low level leads to these situations. And as you see, there's been tons of them that piled up. Just not good coding. It's fixed now, so "no harm done" except, you know, years of it sucking for no reason except ineptitude.
        Last edited by abott; 06-26-2020, 03:49 PM.

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        • #34
          "...after he upgraded his display...."

          Can someone give this guy another 4K monitor so he can run dual 4K monitors?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by brent View Post
            For many years, the GNOME community worked mostly on features and fancy UI and largely ignored performance
            I guess you meant "worked mostly on removing features".

            Also, Vanilla Gnome with that Dark monolithic looking top bar with weird rounded edges on each end, the Adwaita theme, the 1995 icons and that idiotic hardcoded "Activities" button name is anything but fancy. Anybody in their right mind (some Fedora cultists aside) changes these into a real theme as a first thing.

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            • #36
              Just to show how important dogfooding is

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              • #37
                Originally posted by CochainComplex View Post

                wait...someone is working on an opensource project whilst beeing not user of it. im sorry, have you cought to much of tulsa rally spirit?

                they might have macbooks. But you know that the intermediate linux user is able to install linux on those machines
                Come on dont be naive. they buy macbooks to install linux? Have you ever used gnome? its clear that its developers dont use it in the real world

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by 240Hz View Post

                  Come on dont be naive. they buy macbooks to install linux? Have you ever used gnome? its clear that its developers dont use it in the real world
                  Yes I'm using gnome and yes I have been installing Linux once on a Mac iBook G4. KDE remeinds me too much of windows. I really like Gnome. Ever tried it on PopOS with autotilling...that is great fun.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Mez' View Post
                    I guess you meant "worked mostly on removing features".

                    Also, Vanilla Gnome with that Dark monolithic looking top bar with weird rounded edges on each end, the Adwaita theme, the 1995 icons and that idiotic hardcoded "Activities" button name is anything but fancy. Anybody in their right mind (some Fedora cultists aside) changes these into a real theme as a first thing.
                    I already liked this, but I've to restate my like!

                    I've said it many times, but it's never gonna be enough: vanilla Gnome is user hostile by design.
                    It's ui/ux designers are incredibly opinionated and far from reality.
                    The things I find infuriating are the absence of a global menu bar, the centered clock, and the removal of both the system tray and the desktop icons.
                    I mean they clearly copied macOS ui, but like missed its ux.
                    They have a top bar, but it's mostly empty and useless.
                    Apple uses header bars everywhere they can but they didn't ditch the global menu.
                    Because it's standard and very familiar ui pattern that boosts discoverability.
                    Gnome designers must think they know better, but we are stuck with those awful hamburger menus.
                    The only UIs with a centered clock are iPads and those iPhones without the notch.
                    They have something that resemble a system tray, but it's actually not.
                    They have a desktop, but it's just a wallpaper.
                    In the desktop world nobody but Gnome mocks the user like this.

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                    • #40
                      What a beast, these changes all look very exciting. I get mouse stutters in Wayland sometimes on Ubuntu 20.04, hopefully in 20.10 it will get better.

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