Two Areas KDE Can Use Help Right Now In Porting For Plasma 6.0

[carewolf]

Also: stop feeding the troll..

[JackLilhammers]

It will never happen. KDE is a tech demo for Qt. It follows Qt editions closely and only cares about showcasing its capabilities. KDE as a product itself is of no importance, all that matters is that it looks flashy and capable to entice other devs to use Qt for their projects.

Everybody knows it'll never happen. We were just talking, like in a forum, you know?
It would make absolutely no sense from RH point of view.

RH chose Gtk and Gnome because they had better licensing options at the time.
That's not the case anymore. Deepin Desktop is proof of that.
However RH has absolutely no interest in Qt for 2 main reasons:
- Their main focus are servers and hybrid cloud. Neither Qt nor Gtk really matter that much there.
- As long as developers can work with Qt on RHEL, who cares about the desktop.

I mean you can run Qt Creator just about everywhere. The desktop environment make no difference.

PS: arguing that Kde is a tech demo for Qt is ridiculous. Like the rest of you argument.
You do understand that most Qt developers do not run Kde, right?
Many don't even know about Kde or Gnome or most of linux.

[DanL]

Also: stop feeding the troll..

I'd love to ignore it and those that reply to it. But this forum is not that capable..

[DanL]

KDE is a tech demo for Qt. It follows Qt editions closely and only cares about showcasing its capabilities. KDE as a product itself is of no importance, all that matters is that it looks flashy and capable to entice other devs to use Qt for their projects.

WTF is wrong with you? KDE is not a tech demo for Qt (and repeating that same stupid meme over and over will not make it true). They're two separate entities. Do you think KDE devs are secretly paid by Qt Company? "Hey, we'll pay a bunch of devs for thousands of hours of coding labor to fool people into using our product! That'll be profitable! What a great scam!"

[JackLilhammers]

JackLilhammers Today’s Qt license options are unacceptable to Red Hat Legal. Your personal opinion doesn’t matter.

Because you know all about Red Hat Legal.
The problem is that I did not say that.
Let me repeat it, you can read it all the times you need.
I said that Gtk and Gnome had better licensing options at the time. And that's not the case anymore.
Never even mentioned Red Hat Legal.

[JackLilhammers]

DanL Calm down and listen to Templar’s Wise Words. No one thinks there’s secret pay but there’s still a dependency and a bias. KDE people let Qt get away with all kinds of dirty tricks and weasel talk.

That's plain wrong.
The Kde community has been very vocal against some of the decisions of the QtCo.

[bug77]

GTK and Qt are not equal. GTK is a proper Free upstream, no bad CLA. Qt is Commercial+CLA that happens to come with a dumbed down Free version. Qt’ inferior licensing might be good enough for you but it is not acceptable to large parts of the community and definitely NOT Red Hat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_(software)#Licensing

[reavertm]

GTK and Qt are not equal.

Indeed they are not. Qt is superior to GTK, modern, cross-platform programming toolkit that goes far beyond GUI.
GTK is also cross-platform but GUI-only toolkit that is additionally stuck in the past (written in C) for obscure reasons (ease to generate bindings to non-object-oriented languages) that defeat primary purpose of framework being convenient to use. Good job.
Gtkmm is a language binding itself, wrapper (and has some performance penalty to it), doesn't count as GTK.

[JackLilhammers]

JackLilhammers Clearly not vocal enough.

And why you'd think that?
I don't agree with many decisions of the QtCo, but they hardly affect open source users.
IIRC Qt is still (L)GPLv3 if you develop free software. In your world has become closed source?

[Guest]

That's plain wrong.
The Kde community has been very vocal against some of the decisions of the QtCo.

And ... Does it matter? Still it's not a free toolkit at its core. It's a community edition variant of proprietary software... Similar to JetBrains IDEA community edition. At least, JetBrains IDE-s are worth the money.