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  • #21

    Imagine if instead of spending so much time, energy and effort into getting gnome to become barely usable, the effort instead went into improving KDE.
    The linux desktop experience today would be 100 times better than it is currently. G*ome is the worst thing to have ever happened to the Linux Desktop and the linux community.

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    • #22
      The culling fixes make a huge difference on iGPUs if you have more than a one or two big windows open.

      I disagree though, Intel GPUs are still quite weak for 4K (or multiple 1080p/1440p screens). This makes it more bearable though.

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      • #23
        Typo:

        Originally posted by phoronix View Post
        Even windows not being presented at all were not being vulled and that leads to a huge waste especially at high resolutions.

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        • #24
          3.38 gonna be fast.

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          • #25
            Woah.

            Suspected as much.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post
              2D has always been expensive
              Tell this to us in 2001 gasping at Windows XP's wopping 128 MB abs min RAM requirement.
              Yeah, the same winxp that could draw fades ins/out, shadows, and a bunch of other stuff to boot.
              Not many had something called "a 3D accelerator" installed back then. Let alone heard of such thing as "compositing".
              Pretty mind-boggling eh?


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              • #27
                Originally posted by 240Hz View Post
                Imagine if instead of spending so much time, energy and effort into getting gnome to become barely usable, the effort instead went into improving KDE.
                The linux desktop experience today would be 100 times better than it is currently. G*ome is the worst thing to have ever happened to the Linux Desktop and the linux community.
                Many users don't like KDE, because it's over-customizable and over-detailed. Personally, that's also mine reason, why I prefer GNOME 3 over KDE.

                However, why each DE develops its own compositor from scratch instead of having/sharing some common reusable base compositor (at least for rendering). Except from UI overlay, the rendering (buffers exchange, compositing) process is the same,...

                I just don't get why Linux users promote too much diversity. It looks to produce more resources waste, and reinventing the wheel, than benefit.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
                  kravemir A single Wayland compositor for the desktop? Sure. The big distributors already went with Mutter.
                  Isn't mutter too much coupled to gnome/gtk codebase? At least it's coupled to gobject system, but isn't there more? It might be usable for gtk-oriented DE(s) like XFCE, but bad for others like LXDE, KDE,..

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
                    kravemir Adapting to Mutter is far easier than doing your own desktop wayland compositor.
                    Well, not everybody is in favor of dependency bloating. However, that holds true only while system stays completely free of gtk based software, otherwise there's shared gobject dependency.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by 240Hz View Post
                      Imagine if instead of spending so much time, energy and effort into getting gnome to become barely usable, the effort instead went into improving KDE.
                      The linux desktop experience today would be 100 times better than it is currently. G*ome is the worst thing to have ever happened to the Linux Desktop and the linux community.
                      Wow, sour grapes... I have tried KDE a couple of time, but wasn't very impressed. After having getting used to Unity, I will never go back to a desktop with a Windows-style taskbar eating away my precious vertical screen space. Personally, I feel Gnome has really become very performant (yes, it took a long time!), unobtrusive and easy to use with nice keyboard shortcuts.

                      However, all to their own... but at least try to be a bit sociable.

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