GNOME's Mutter Sees More Cleaning That Ultimately Could Help Foster Vulkan Support

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AFAIK there are/were a lot of Xwayland fixes queued up for the next big release which may not be being utilised as we are still on the 1.20 stable series.

Especially important where you use mutter with some apps falling back to xwayland.

[Charlie68]

Don't waste a lot of time with Mutter's shit, better focus on Xorg.

[andre30correia]

Don't waste a lot of time with Mutter's shit, better focus on Xorg.

he most likely focus in what is paid for. IBM says to work in Mutter, he work in Mutter its a job

[Guest]

I love GNOME, I really do, but aren't there more issues (bottleneck) with its use of Javascript in GNOME Shell than hardware acceleration of the desktop? Fix the stuttering and incorporate multithreading first. Then think about Vulkan support.

Well you see the work on Mutter is what's needed to fix those issues you care about. Vulkan allows for lower level access and explicitly supports multithreading while OpenGL does not. So, with Vulkan support, they are doing exactly what you want.

[Guest]

AFAIK there are/were a lot of Xwayland fixes queued up for the next big release which may not be being utilised as we are still on the 1.20 stable series.

Especially important where you use mutter with some apps falling back to xwayland.

True, but I'd also rather they focus on having more applications support Wayland. Of course, certain third party software will probably never support it.

[DanL]

The mutter devs got most of that stuff backported to 1.20.x.

..which is why 1.21 wouldn't be a "big release", as you claim.

you will continue complaining about stuff where you got no power or merits.

Yeah, why should anyone listen to what users want?

[cynical]

I love GNOME, I really do, but aren't there more issues (bottleneck) with its use of Javascript in GNOME Shell

No, Gnome issues have nothing to do with JavaScript, but architectural design.

[dkasak]

I love GNOME, I really do, but aren't there more issues (bottleneck) with its use of Javascript in GNOME Shell than hardware acceleration of the desktop? Fix the stuttering and incorporate multithreading first. Then think about Vulkan support.

Works for me - silky smooth actually. What stutters for you?

[curfew]

Works for me - silky smooth actually. What stutters for you?

There is no such setup for which it "just works". If you don't see anything wrong, it's because you don't know where to look at. On Xorg, however, the issues are less prominent as the current generation of Mutter was specifically designed to be optimal on Xorg, and most of the bottlenecks are in the code that hacks this Xorg-targeting release to work on Wayland.

[pal666]

They do need to get their heads out of their butts and release 1.21 though.

to please novideo slaves?