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  • PaulDavis
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    Originally posted by mos87 View Post
    users with higher-than-usual DPI displays apparently aren't

    PS
    fair enough then. A modern toolkit would probably allow for a smoother exp.. However since your GUI is so custom... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    why do you think we don't value HiDPI ... ardour already works with hiDPI, on all platforms.

    does phoronix have the worst forum system ever, or what? it's appalling. logging in is hard enough, and then in your post, for example, i can't see the "PS" until i quote your message.

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  • mos87
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    Originally posted by PaulDavis View Post
    our users are too important for us to waste that much time on something with so little payback.
    users with higher-than-usual DPI displays apparently aren't

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    Originally posted by PaulDavis View Post
    Ardour already supports HiDPI
    fair enough then. A modern toolkit would probably allow for a smoother exp.. However since your GUI is so custom... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Last edited by mos87; 25 May 2020, 10:10 AM.

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  • PaulDavis
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    Originally posted by darkbasic View Post
    I've used to be a long time Ardour user and I'm very sorry to hear that. Hopefully you will change your mind about GTK3 and Wayland.
    Why are you sorry to hear that? Ardour already runs on Wayland. What do you imagine you would gain, as a user, from a GTK3/4 version?

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  • PaulDavis
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    Originally posted by stalkerg View Post

    I don't know who are you and can you talking from all Ardour developers or not. If yes, as user I really frustrated.
    After all this words I suppose Michael can preapre new article with scream title. )
    'm Ardour's lead/original developer.

    Why would you be frustrated? As I've outlined, there's nothing about a move to GTK3/4 that would buy you (as a user) anything at all, and if we did a port, we'd be spending time on that which could be spent on actual features. Ardour already supports HiDPI, works on Wayland, etc. etc.

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  • darkbasic
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    I've used to be a long time Ardour user and I'm very sorry to hear that. Hopefully you will change your mind about GTK3 and Wayland.

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  • stalkerg
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    Originally posted by PaulDavis View Post

    HidPI does not require GTK2. Wayland is irrelevant - approximately a zillion X Window applications will continue functioning whether Wayland is in use or not. New file dialog ... do we care? Security? In a program that loads arbitrary 3rd party shared objects and runs them with realtime scheduling and full access to everythng the user can do - I don't think this is a major priority. Distro's deprecating GTK2 .. do we care? We don't support distro builds anyway (they never get it right), so people will just be "forced" to get it from us instead (which we'd prefer).

    We still use GTK much more extensively than we would like, and even if we ever reach the promised land, we will still be using it for: menus, treeviews, text input and the file dialog(s).
    I don't know who are you and can you talking from all Ardour developers or not. If yes, as user I really frustrated.
    After all this words I suppose Michael can preapre new article with scream title. )

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  • PaulDavis
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    Originally posted by stalkerg View Post

    HiDPI,
    Wayland,
    New FileDialog,
    Security and bug fixes,
    It's a really strange question. Also, as I know, Ardour is using gtk very limited and it means it should be easy to make this migration.
    PS when Linux distributives will drop gtk2 as deprecated?
    HidPI does not require GTK2. Wayland is irrelevant - approximately a zillion X Window applications will continue functioning whether Wayland is in use or not. New file dialog ... do we care? Security? In a program that loads arbitrary 3rd party shared objects and runs them with realtime scheduling and full access to everythng the user can do - I don't think this is a major priority. Distro's deprecating GTK2 .. do we care? We don't support distro builds anyway (they never get it right), so people will just be "forced" to get it from us instead (which we'd prefer).

    We still use GTK much more extensively than we would like, and even if we ever reach the promised land, we will still be using it for: menus, treeviews, text input and the file dialog(s).

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  • stalkerg
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    Originally posted by PaulDavis View Post

    that won't be changing any time in the foreseeable future. we would gain nothing and waste months (or even years) on porting. and to what? gtk3? gtk4? juce? qt?

    our users are too important for us to waste that much time on something with so little payback. we'll continue to work on developing more GUI tech that sits above GDK and generally sidesteps GTK, which we'd have to do for just about any other toolkit too.
    HiDPI,
    Wayland,
    New FileDialog,
    Security and bug fixes,
    It's a really strange question. Also, as I know, Ardour is using gtk very limited and it means it should be easy to make this migration.
    PS when Linux distributives will drop gtk2 as deprecated?

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  • PaulDavis
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    Originally posted by stalkerg View Post
    And still gtk2...
    that won't be changing any time in the foreseeable future. we would gain nothing and waste months (or even years) on porting. and to what? gtk3? gtk4? juce? qt?

    our users are too important for us to waste that much time on something with so little payback. we'll continue to work on developing more GUI tech that sits above GDK and generally sidesteps GTK, which we'd have to do for just about any other toolkit too.

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  • stalkerg
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    And still gtk2...

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