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  • #31
    Originally posted by caligula View Post
    Trolling perhaps? Desktop Linux and BSD UNIX have around 1% market share. During the last 5 years, annually around 100M computers have been shipped globally. Somehow these numbers don't add up.
    a) I am always trolling b) those are consumer retail numbers

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    • #32
      Originally posted by andyprough View Post
      That's a hilarious stat you pulled out of your butt, given that 15% of Debian users alone still haven't upgraded past Wheezy.
      And that's peanuts if compared to people still using XP.
      People using unsupported releases don't matter in the discussion.

      What he said is close enough to truth and you know it too. There aren't a whole lot of server distros without systemd, and I don't think people install Arch or Void Linux in company servers.
      Even desktop distros are predominantly using systemd.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
        And that's peanuts if compared to people still using XP.
        People using unsupported releases don't matter in the discussion.

        What he said is close enough to truth and you know it too. There aren't a whole lot of server distros without systemd, and I don't think people install Arch or Void Linux in company servers.
        Even desktop distros are predominantly using systemd.
        Arch was one of the first distros to go with systemd as the default in 2012. You have a very strange and loose handle on facts. And no, it's nowhere near 99%. The distros the average Phoronix users know about - basically Ubuntu and Fedora - are very unpopular in the real world. You, by using openSUSE, are part of the 1% around here. The vast majority of Phoronix folks think of openSUSE as incredibly exotic. In the real world of "which distro should I use to put Kodi or PopcornTime on this old laptop and torrent free movies" and "which distro should I put on this ancient desktop to hand over to grandma for playing poker online", virtually no one is using the bloated beasts that are the standard around here.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by andyprough
          basically Ubuntu and Fedora - are very unpopular in the real world.
          Rofl, which real world do you live in?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
            GBM predates the invention of EGLStreams by a couple years at the very least. Making it "standard" does not change the fact that it came much later, when everyone else had already invested in GBM.

            #1 (February 21, 2009) Marcus Lorentzon - Initial draft


            Version 1, 2013.03.24 (Chad Versace) - First draft

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            • #36
              Originally posted by cynical View Post

              Rofl, which real world do you live in?
              his own, most of the time

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              • #37
                All the hate, tolling, and misinformation aside... ksysguard 5.15.5 shows 16 cores on my computer.

                "the KSysGuard system monitor finally supports more than 12 CPU cores" Did you mean more than 12 physical cores?

                Thanks for the hard work!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by andyprough View Post
                  In the real world of "which distro should I use to put Kodi or PopcornTime on this old laptop and torrent free movies" and "which distro should I put on this ancient desktop to hand over to grandma for playing poker online", virtually no one is using the bloated beasts that are the standard around here.
                  Which distros are used for those puposes? I guess OpenELEC for Kodi. What would you suggest for a (somewhat) dedicated PopcornTime distro? Which distro is suitable for grandma?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
                    GBM predates the invention of EGLStreams by a couple years at the very least. Making it "standard" does not change the fact that it came much later, when everyone else had already invested in GBM.
                    That is false.
                    https://www.khronos.org/registry/EGL...atform_gbm.txt
                    https://www.khronos.org/registry/EGL...KHR_stream.txt

                    Compare timestamps in revision history.

                    Ninjad: Need to read whole thread before replying.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by d3coder View Post
                      https://www.khronos.org/registry/EGL...KHR_stream.txt
                      #1 (February 21, 2009) Marcus Lorentzon - Initial draft


                      Version 1, 2013.03.24 (Chad Versace) - First draft
                      Two things:
                      -this is just when these were put into standard, GBM was created in Mesa in 2011, see this commit https://github.com/mesa3d/mesa/commi...db25fd5b744fe3
                      and this is full commit history of that folder in the source https://github.com/mesa3d/mesa/commi...path%5B%5D=gbm

                      - the idea of NVIDIA of using EGL Streams for wayland came much later in 2014, https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...tem&px=MTgxMDE

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