GNOME 3.37.1 Released As The First Step Towards GNOME 3.38

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  • Volta
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2019
    • 2284

    #31
    Originally posted by Mez' View Post
    I meant beside Gnome fanboys.
    They would sell you an overpriced car with no body, windshield, seats or windows that you'd still buy it, explaining how cool its design is and how you can use it just like that, then asking people to go to third-party pimp shops or garages to get feature parity with other manufacturers.
    So please don't take offense when I tell you I'd rather get more reliable opinions.
    No offense taken. Not so long ago I was starting VM from terminal, because Boxes didn't support setting number of CPUs for guest. It's already implemented, but there's one more thing I'd like to have: an easy way to backup VM Guest. Currently it's not enough to copy VM Image, because it won't be recognized later. AFAIK one more file from another location is needed. However, I believe it will be implemented into GUI. Ps. I'm just using Guest for programming, so I don't pollute my original system with dozens of dependencies. I didn't try any complicated tasks so far.
    Last edited by Volta; 01 May 2020, 06:06 AM.

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    • SpyroRyder
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 393

      #32
      Originally posted by lucrus View Post

      I've never followed Wayland developments closely (long time XFCE user), but it's now slowly becoming one of my interersts (dreaming of a switch to something else with Wayland support).

      What does that sentence exaclty mean? Is it "Wayland in general" not supporting workspaces or is it "Gedit on Wayland" not supporting them? Or, maybe, "Gnome on Wayland"?
      I just read the bug reports for this cause I didn't know myself. As I understand it, and I may be wrong from my small amount of reading, X11 allowed you to get a list of open programs from any workplace. The Gnome Wayland doesn't and so the ability for something like Nautilus on workspace 1 to know that Gedit is open on workspace 2 isn't there right now. This removal just takes out the x11 specific code that allowed this to happen. So its arguably a net negative feature wise

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      • George99
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2017
        • 225

        #33
        Originally posted by moilami View Post

        Ok, gotta toggle the button all the way back then. It used to be possible to right click the titlebar and chose minimize from there, retaining the sleep look of the titlebar. But not anymore. Thanks.
        That's because you deactivated title bar in Firefox. You can still use SUPER plus right click to get the general Gnome windows context menu.

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        • Mez'
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 1176

          #34
          Originally posted by George99 View Post

          That's because you deactivated title bar in Firefox. You can still use SUPER plus right click to get the general Gnome windows context menu.
          A click on the app icon in dash-to-dock to minimize current window followed by a scroll (or click to start) on a nearby icon of the next app window you want focused. So much faster, with less background visual clutter (of unminimized apps) and requiring fewer and less millimeter-precision mouse movements overall. With the added benefit of not needing to keep your (likely) left hand stuck on the keyboard like a statue. You can use it to drink or pet your wi... ahem animal. Or simply not look like a nerd. 😁

          P.S: I know it's just my workflow. And yet it is one possible workfkow that should be considered design-wise.
          Last edited by Mez'; 01 May 2020, 07:53 AM.

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          • treba
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 716

            #35
            Originally posted by Mez' View Post
            ...
            Instead of dedicating resources to reinvent the wheel with apps nobody uses, and of stripping down features, would it be possible to redirect these resources to make Gnome actually good or even just bearable with less extensions?...
            Here is the list of Gnome employees: https://www.gnome.org/foundation/staff/
            Unfortunately their only developer is busy with GTK ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

            Or do you mean the Gnome board should have the power to tell people (or companies) what to do?

            Let's try how well that works:
            "Why does the FOSS community spent so much time writing in forums? They should get work done!" -> I hereby declare that all phoronix forum members shall stop posting and instead work on Gnome Shell!

            Ah, I see a wave of contributions incoming.

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            • Mario Junior
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2016
              • 443

              #36
              Fractional scale still a crap. Set to 125% on my 24" 1440P and everything becomes big as fuck, broken UI...
              Windows Explorer is mucher better in this question, unfortunately they have the problem with blury fonts on scaled apps.

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              • moilami
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 871

                #37
                Originally posted by George99 View Post

                That's because you deactivated title bar in Firefox. You can still use SUPER plus right click to get the general Gnome windows context menu.
                Ok, it really is so that Firefox is hiding title bar in Firefox. That SUPER thing works and I can get traditional Gnome 3 way minimize, with the caveat I have to press SUPER. I don't recall hiding title bar myself. I can get it back with F10, for a moment, it vanishes when I exit the menu. After a brief look at various settings in Firefox I did not find setting "always show title bar" or "toggle title bar".

                Anyway, without title bar Firefox shows on tab bar the close window button, and you can get it show minimize window button via Gnome settings. So I would call this a bug in Firefox. They did not integrate minimize window right click men button on tab bar, only enabled the feature button through gnome settings, even though the tab bar show close window button.

                I am wondering why one can't just minimize the window by left clicking DE task bar icon, it would made sense and works like traditional left click on task bar active application button. Now left clicking opens the same many as does right clicking do.

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                • Mez'
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1176

                  #38
                  Originally posted by moilami View Post

                  Ok, it really is so that Firefox is hiding title bar in Firefox. That SUPER thing works and I can get traditional Gnome 3 way minimize, with the caveat I have to press SUPER. I don't recall hiding title bar myself. I can get it back with F10, for a moment, it vanishes when I exit the menu. After a brief look at various settings in Firefox I did not find setting "always show title bar" or "toggle title bar".

                  Anyway, without title bar Firefox shows on tab bar the close window button, and you can get it show minimize window button via Gnome settings. So I would call this a bug in Firefox. They did not integrate minimize window right click men button on tab bar, only enabled the feature button through gnome settings, even though the tab bar show close window button.

                  I am wondering why one can't just minimize the window by left clicking DE task bar icon, it would made sense and works like traditional left click on task bar active application button. Now left clicking opens the same many as does right clicking do.
                  Right click on menu bar --> Customize --> Title bar check box on the bottom left corner --> Done.



                  Originally posted by Mario Junior View Post
                  Fractional scale still a crap. Set to 125% on my 24" 1440P and everything becomes big as fuck, broken UI...
                  Windows Explorer is mucher better in this question, unfortunately they have the problem with blury fonts on scaled apps.
                  In my experience, on a 4k60 65" TV screen wich serves as my desktop monitor, 150% is the worst. I get an extra frozen cursor in a random place of the desktop (on top of everything). It only does so at startup though, and changing the scale to different % then back eventually works. It's no big deal as I can suspend for months before rebooting, but it's not really something you would expect...
                  Last edited by Mez'; 01 May 2020, 09:43 AM.

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                  • Mez'
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1176

                    #39
                    Originally posted by treba View Post

                    Here is the list of Gnome employees: https://www.gnome.org/foundation/staff/
                    Unfortunately their only developer is busy with GTK ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

                    Or do you mean the Gnome board should have the power to tell people (or companies) what to do?

                    Let's try how well that works:
                    "Why does the FOSS community spent so much time writing in forums? They should get work done!" -> I hereby declare that all phoronix forum members shall stop posting and instead work on Gnome Shell!

                    Ah, I see a wave of contributions incoming.
                    I'm talking about the Gnome project as a whole, corporate contributors included, which I suspect is likely oriented by Red Hat. I understand different contributors paid by different corporations will have different interests though and can lead to different projects within the Gnome hat. I have no issue with that.

                    But the level of fragmentation there is currently is a waste of resources. Lack of resources which is often the first justification for getting rid of some features (in need of maintenance, hence resources). What that is a snake biting its own tail.
                    Last edited by Mez'; 01 May 2020, 10:04 AM.

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                    • skeevy420
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2017
                      • 8670

                      #40
                      Originally posted by moilami View Post
                      I am wondering why one can't just minimize the window by left clicking DE task bar icon, it would made sense and works like traditional left click on task bar active application button. Now left clicking opens the same many as does right clicking do.
                      I'm just now getting around to using it, but Dash to Panel and the Pop! OS Shell really make a killer combination. Not only will left-clicking minimize/maximize a window, it'll resize the existing tiles accordingly.

                      My only frustration with it is due to GNOME's default tiling setup making it so I can't drag a window into a corner for quarter tiling. That's actually my biggest GNOME issue and I'm gonna feel very stupid if someone posts "well if you enable this setting here it'll quarter tile".

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