Ubuntu 20.04 GNOME X.Org vs. Wayland Session Performance Impact For Gaming

[pal666]

Fact is when X11 was exactly as old as wayland is -RIGHT NOW- xorg was already forked from xfree86 and heavily developed

fact is, wayland is 12 years old, it started in 2008. xorg forked after license change in 2004, 17 years after x11 and 20 years after x started. fact is, you are pathetic liar

Need I keep going? I can keep laying facts down

you can keep lying, but it will not change reality

[Girolamo_Cavazzoni]

Damn forum software... double post.

[pal666]

I talking about GAMES. Try to play TF2 with a AMD GPU (mine is the RX570) using Wayland and see the disaster. Don't forget to disable vsync.

lol. that's self-inflicted pain. you are deliberately making your game produce frames nobody can see because monitor is not fast enough. why do you do such stupid things to yourself?

[MrRtd]

The games use X11. XWayland is used to run them on the Wayland session.

I wish Michael could test with Wayland-native games...

Are there any Wayland-native games? And if there are any, do people actually play them?

[pal666]

Anyway regardless of whether or not you personally notice it, it's most definitely there for certain

if it's there on your system but not on other systems then it's your fault

[pal666]

Are there any Wayland-native games? And if there are any, do people actually play them?

sdl is wayland-native, so any sdl game which doesn't link to x11 itself

[Mario Junior]

lol. that's self-inflicted pain. you are deliberately making your game produce frames nobody can see because monitor is not fast enough. why do you do such stupid things to yourself?

Are you retard? Nobody plays a fucking competitive game locked at 60 frames. Stop talking shit!

[duby229]

Are you retard? Nobody plays a fucking competitive game locked at 60 frames. Stop talking shit!

Don't mind him too much, he's just stupid. He has no clue that every other display protocol except for wayland syncs output on input and that 60fps isn't a high enough input resolution. These fools think that a 50ms+ lag is ok just cause they don't notice it ...

[sdack]

because you are looking at x11(xwayland) instead of wayland. smartphones are using wayland since 2013, how do x11 smartphones fare?
dxvk isn't a protocol. relevant protocols are dx11 and vulkan. so, how many years and developers did it take? and btw dxvk doesn't work without wine, so you could add it too

We are looking at the Phoronix results should you not have noticed. Wayland has not yet delivered on its promise to provide a faster X11 implementation. There isn't anything to discuss, because it's obvious to see from the benchmarks, but there is plenty of room for excuses of course. Excuses is all we get now, but that's not what people want.

[Britoid]

We are looking at the Phoronix results should you not have noticed. Wayland has not yet delivered on its promise to provide a faster X11 implementation. There isn't anything to discuss, because it's obvious to see from the benchmarks, but there is plenty of room for excuses of course. Excuses is all we get now, but that's not what people want.

Wayland doesn't implement X11 at all, that's kinda the point of it.