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Originally posted by duby229 View PostAs soon as a viable alternative to wayland becomes prominent then wayland will dieLast edited by pal666; 31 March 2020, 09:25 AM.
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Originally posted by pal666 View Postwhat viable alternative? mir or x11? who will develop it? all x11 devs switched to wayland, i.e. they are developing wayland. to develop alternatives wayland-hating idiots should learn how to do it and invest their resources. which they apparently aren't capable of
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Originally posted by andyprough View PostGTFO of what? Something that most people haven't been able to use yet after 12 years in development?
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostWhat? Facts like, input lag on wayland
Originally posted by duby229 View Postmakes it unusable in most desktop usage scenarios and it's ubiquitous across every single compositor.... Or do you mean other facts like, Wayland has been in development for nearly 15 years and it is still alpha quality at best in every single compositor that exists....
Originally posted by duby229 View PostOr do you mean facts like, wayland is such an incomplete protocol that compositors must reinvent basically every single wheel independently for each and every single one of them....
Originally posted by duby229 View PostAnd most important of all lets not forget that waaay over a decade ago Hogsberg himself specifically stated that wayland was -never- intended to replace a desktop display server. It was entirely intended for incredibly simple IoT devices. The protocol simply doesn't do most of what a desktop compositor needs a display protocol to do.
Originally posted by duby229 View PostI mean really, what facts are you talking about?
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Originally posted by tildearrow View PostUgh come on... What about if I want to change my display resolution, screen orientation or position?
What a dumb idea :l
Originally posted by tildearrow View PostI never knew there were that many clipboards...
Originally posted by tildearrow View PostExcept that Mutter does not implement it as mentioned before in this thread.
but i can educate you on ssd:
first, wanting to have titile bar to be de-like, but rest of window to be de-unlike is really stupid idea not worth time of intelligent beings.
second, if you have nothing else to do and still want your window be different from your titlebar, you don't need wayland server for it. just like you don't need wayland server to print letters or triangles. use some library, which will have plugins for different de styles of titlebars. plugins can even live in respective de repos. it doesn't exist yet? then stop posting bullshit and start doing something useful ffs
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Originally posted by Mario Junior View Post
Try to play TF2 with a AMD GPU (mine is the RX570) using Wayland and see the disaster. Don't forget to disable vsync.
The issue is that an unthrottled client can starve the display server's GPU work, causing the compositor's frames to be delayed. Fixing this will be surprisingly tricky and require the kernel and Mesa drivers to provide a way for the compositor's work to be prioritized and finish ahead of the client's GPU work, even if the GPU has already started processing the latter.
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