Ubuntu 20.04 GNOME X.Org vs. Wayland Session Performance Impact For Gaming

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  • pal666
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 9177

    #91
    Originally posted by duby229 View Post
    Fact is when X11 was exactly as old as wayland is -RIGHT NOW- xorg was already forked from xfree86 and heavily developed
    fact is, wayland is 12 years old, it started in 2008. xorg forked after license change in 2004, 17 years after x11 and 20 years after x started. fact is, you are pathetic liar
    Originally posted by duby229 View Post
    Need I keep going? I can keep laying facts down
    you can keep lying, but it will not change reality

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    • Girolamo_Cavazzoni
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2016
      • 160

      #92
      Damn forum software... double post.

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      • pal666
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 9177

        #93
        Originally posted by Mario Junior View Post
        I talking about GAMES. Try to play TF2 with a AMD GPU (mine is the RX570) using Wayland and see the disaster. Don't forget to disable vsync.
        lol. that's self-inflicted pain. you are deliberately making your game produce frames nobody can see because monitor is not fast enough. why do you do such stupid things to yourself?

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        • MrRtd
          Phoronix Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 52

          #94
          Originally posted by tildearrow View Post

          The games use X11. XWayland is used to run them on the Wayland session.

          I wish Michael could test with Wayland-native games...
          Are there any Wayland-native games? And if there are any, do people actually play them?

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          • pal666
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 9177

            #95
            Originally posted by duby229 View Post
            Anyway regardless of whether or not you personally notice it, it's most definitely there for certain
            if it's there on your system but not on other systems then it's your fault
            Last edited by pal666; 31 March 2020, 03:13 PM.

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            • pal666
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 9177

              #96
              Originally posted by MrRtd View Post
              Are there any Wayland-native games? And if there are any, do people actually play them?
              sdl is wayland-native, so any sdl game which doesn't link to x11 itself

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              • Mario Junior
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2016
                • 443

                #97
                Originally posted by pal666 View Post
                lol. that's self-inflicted pain. you are deliberately making your game produce frames nobody can see because monitor is not fast enough. why do you do such stupid things to yourself?
                Are you retard? Nobody plays a fucking competitive game locked at 60 frames. Stop talking shit!

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                • duby229
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 7782

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Mario Junior View Post

                  Are you retard? Nobody plays a fucking competitive game locked at 60 frames. Stop talking shit!
                  Don't mind him too much, he's just stupid. He has no clue that every other display protocol except for wayland syncs output on input and that 60fps isn't a high enough input resolution. These fools think that a 50ms+ lag is ok just cause they don't notice it ...
                  Last edited by duby229; 31 March 2020, 12:08 PM.

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                  • sdack
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 1730

                    #99
                    Originally posted by pal666 View Post
                    because you are looking at x11(xwayland) instead of wayland. smartphones are using wayland since 2013, how do x11 smartphones fare?
                    dxvk isn't a protocol. relevant protocols are dx11 and vulkan. so, how many years and developers did it take? and btw dxvk doesn't work without wine, so you could add it too
                    We are looking at the Phoronix results should you not have noticed. Wayland has not yet delivered on its promise to provide a faster X11 implementation. There isn't anything to discuss, because it's obvious to see from the benchmarks, but there is plenty of room for excuses of course. Excuses is all we get now, but that's not what people want.

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                    • Britoid
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 2172

                      Originally posted by sdack View Post
                      We are looking at the Phoronix results should you not have noticed. Wayland has not yet delivered on its promise to provide a faster X11 implementation. There isn't anything to discuss, because it's obvious to see from the benchmarks, but there is plenty of room for excuses of course. Excuses is all we get now, but that's not what people want.
                      Wayland doesn't implement X11 at all, that's kinda the point of it.

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