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  • #41
    Originally posted by royce View Post

    I never had that problem. tbf the lock screen is lightdm, not unity anyhow.
    Canonical switched Ubuntu from gdm to lightdm, so if you installed Unity you were potentially getting that bug. So though technically the bug wasn't in Unity itself, it was the reason I stopped using Unity on 14.04.

    Otherwise, yes, Unity itself didn't crash for me from 14.04 forward. Before then it was pretty messy. The good news is, Canonical seems to have learned its lesson - they keep postponing the Wayland rollout in LTS releases because they want to be certain it's rock solid, and not alienate users and customers. I want to use Wayland, but I want stability first and Wayland second.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Michael_S View Post
      Otherwise, yes, Unity itself didn't crash for me from 14.04 forward. Before then it was pretty messy. The good news is, Canonical seems to have learned its lesson - they keep postponing the Wayland rollout in LTS releases because they want to be certain it's rock solid, and not alienate users and customers. I want to use Wayland, but I want stability first and Wayland second.
      Curious, but what software/hardware are you running that wayland is unstable for you in gnome? I've been using it daily at home for a while now on my Ryzen/rx580 in ubuntu, and on a haswell laptop in 19.10 at work as well.

      The one thing that I'll fully admit needs work is remote desktop-style solutions and display casting over miracast for gnome in wayland. Not sure if that's on canonical or gnome for not having all of the stuff wired up and enabled.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Ironmask View Post
        Also glad they're distancing themselves away from the cursed name of "unity", since both early Unity desktops and the Unity engine are both complete and utter dogshit.
        Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

        I'm sick of idiots pretending their opinion can be extrapolated to the entire universe. You think it is dogshit, it does absolutely not mean it is or ever will be. Please have some respect for others' opinions.

        Many people liked Unity and regret it, whether you want it or not. Period.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
          You failed to read the current situation.

          UBPorts project is a third party community that took over the sources of the Unity 8 project that was discarded by Canonical. It's fitting to give this project their own name as it is now their project.

          Also to distance it from all the hate that usually (and rightfully) surrounds Canonical stuff.
          Rightfully has nothing to do in your comment. Unless you specify it's just your opinion.
          Last edited by Mez'; 03-02-2020, 08:40 AM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
            I'm sorry, but as much as I like the project and Unity 8, I really don't like the new name.
            Me neither. Doesn't ring well to my ears.

            "I'm using Lomiri as a DE.": Just no, does not work at all for me.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by abott View Post
              Still a better desktop than Gnome 3.
              For your workflow (and mine), not for everyone's.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
                The hate is rightful, they always reinvent the wheel and always end up with sub-optimal half-ass solutions that they eventually drop.
                It's rightful FOR YOU.
                It's half ass FOR YOU. For me, Gnome is.

                Really annoying these days to have every comment written as if it's the only truth that exists. It's not gonna give more power to your comment if you make it bigger than it is.
                Last edited by Mez'; 03-02-2020, 03:31 PM.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Mez' View Post
                  For your workflow (and mine), not for everyone's.
                  I was joking because when it came out, I was still on Gnome 2 and loving it. Unity was the world's shittiest desktop back then. It's now the 2nd worse, but Gnome 3 is complete shit all around.

                  I did okay with Gnome 3 when I used it about 2 years ago. I finally jumped when the desktop actually got nuked more recently. I hate the perf of Cinnamon so on my $2000 desktop, that's a no-go. Then I learned when trying KDE that is has the same "mouse assisted" window changing workflow with 5 minutes of config. And it's MUCH better in every area. KDE is Gnome 3 but without every shit part from the terrible menus to the terrible performance.

                  That is when I learned Gnome 3 devs are actually morons. Their code needs all thrown into the trash. What a terrible desktop. Literally would want a straight up window manager or single TTY terminal experience before a gnome 3 "fuck how you use a computer, keep your hands off the fucking mouse" desktop.

                  Gnome 3 is terrible and everyone who likes it has brain damage. And they don't have a lot of it to spare at all. Not only does using it sucks, it performs like shit too.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Mez' View Post
                    Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

                    I'm sick of idiots pretending their opinion can be extrapolated to the entire universe. You think it is dogshit, it does absolutely not mean it is or ever will be. Please have some respect for others' opinions.

                    Many people liked Unity and regret it, whether you want it or not. Period.
                    Uh, no, I'm definitely right. Maybe you're bitter you tried to enjoy something that fundamentally didn't work? I don't know why else you'd have this tantrum.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Veerappan View Post

                      Curious, but what software/hardware are you running that wayland is unstable for you in gnome? I've been using it daily at home for a while now on my Ryzen/rx580 in ubuntu, and on a haswell laptop in 19.10 at work as well.

                      The one thing that I'll fully admit needs work is remote desktop-style solutions and display casting over miracast for gnome in wayland. Not sure if that's on canonical or gnome for not having all of the stuff wired up and enabled.
                      Sorry - when I've tried Wayland, it has been stable for me. But I'm guessing Canonical has found cases where it is unstable and decided to delay a switch to Wayland by default because of it. Either that, or they have a list of critical applications to users or enterprise customers or both that won't run with Wayland or XWayland, and they're waiting until those are all supported.

                      Either way, even though I'm impatient for Wayland I think it makes sense to be cautious.

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