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  • #21
    Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
    The hate is rightful, they always reinvent the wheel and always end up with sub-optimal half-ass solutions that they eventually drop.
    One feature of Unity I liked was search through drop downs. For e.g. I could search for settings and it would even bring settings, you could search for hard to find features.


    Is there any Gnome addon recommended by the community replicating that feature?

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Flohack View Post

      There is one thing: We cannot afford any dispute over trademarks. FOSS stupid names are sometimes taken as the chance is high they would not infringe any worldwide registration. That´s really a big concern. UBports is a charitable foundation now under German law, you can be 100% that some lawyers would find it worth to pull us to court if we do any slight mistake with that. So we also did not check all trademark registers for Lorimi, but we are pretty confident to be worry-free for the next years.

      So basically its my assumption that other projects have to do the same: This world is unforgiving when it comes to making quick money with trademark disputes. Better stay away from them.
      (emphasis mine)

      I'm going to assume that was a quick typo and not the outcome of the *next* name change

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      • #23
        Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
        The hate is rightful, they always reinvent the wheel and always end up with sub-optimal half-ass solutions that they eventually drop.
        Is hate rightful? Did they harm you/them/haters?

        It's quite a disappointing for sure, that Canonical decided to create another solution (ending to be sub-optimal), instead of helping existing GNOME 3, which would be win-win-win for Canonical/gnome/users. GNOME 3 would have more resources for development, Canonical/Ubuntu would have supported (by others) and established DE, and users would benefit from better support too. However, In the end, they went with GNOME 3 and some custom modifications,... Though, I don't know much of history, maybe relations between Canonical and GNOME devs were bad, and initial ideology of GNOME 3 wasn't so great/compatible with Canonical plans,..

        And, it's a bit not nice, that Canonical tried to force it on users with Ubuntu,..

        However,... Sometimes, sub-optimal and half-finished solutions can provide good experience and knowledge, which can be used to develop/contribute-to other mature project,... Sometimes, the journey of development is beneficial for future gain,...

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        • #24
          Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
          The hate is rightful, they always reinvent the wheel and always end up with sub-optimal half-ass solutions that they eventually drop.
          Sure. Hate is certainly a rational and proportional reaction to people following their own beliefs - whether they fail or succeed doing so

          One ting Ubuntu people have going for them is their feisty, daring and positive attitude, even in the face of all all the hate they meet along the way. Some people here could really take a clue from them.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by kravemir View Post
            However,... Sometimes, sub-optimal and half-finished solutions can provide good experience and knowledge, which can be used to develop/contribute-to other mature project,... Sometimes, the journey of development is beneficial for future gain,...
            Thank you for ending with this. I have expressed the same sentiment here in the past in my own way. I look at my own life, full of dead ends I had to give up on. But in reality so much knowledge and wisdom came from exploring those dead ends. To say it is/was nothing but a waste to me seems totally off. My opinion.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by kravemir View Post
              maybe relations between Canonical and GNOME devs were bad,
              Mark Shuttleworth called them the open source tea party.

              So you could say that

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              • #27
                Canonical made a big mistake to abandon Unity. Besides being the best desktop environment IMO it was also the signature of their philosophy and identity. Ofcourse it cost money to develop. They should have thought and planned according to their resources. Their mobile endeavor must have nearly bankrupt them.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by zoomblab View Post
                  Canonical made a big mistake to abandon Unity. Besides being the best desktop environment IMO it was also the signature of their philosophy and identity. Ofcourse it cost money to develop. They should have thought and planned according to their resources. Their mobile endeavor must have nearly bankrupt them.
                  The mistake was to focus on Mir, which was announced in 2013, years later after initial Wayland release,... They should have just joined forces with Wayland developers, and build Unity on top of Wayland (weston for start).

                  Also, mobile industry is quite different from desktop, from UX point of view. And, the market is already dominated by Android.

                  I believe, they could have done great job focusing only on Unity for desktop, based on Wayland.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by ermo View Post

                    (emphasis mine)

                    I'm going to assume that was a quick typo and not the outcome of the *next* name change
                    Ha thx mate, well its also new for me. I will practice typing it over the weekend... ^^

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                    • #30
                      Still a better desktop than Gnome 3.

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