LibreOffice 7.0 Is The Version Now In Development With Its Skia + Vulkan Support

[berolinux]

I hope they will not start the rapid pace version crap like Chome and Firefox.
And I hope the Vulkan code will work good on both Windows 7 and Linux.
I'm now curios how good is the KDE Plasma integration, have they improved anything in this area ?

Plasma integration is great already in 6.4.0 - unfortunately many distros don't build it properly and think the gtk stuff is good enough for Plasma users (that includes even KDE focused spins of otherwise GNOME focused distros that keep the same libreoffice packages as their upstreams).

OpenMandriva 4.1 has full plasma integration enabled (and its libreoffice packages don't even require gtk at all).

[skeevy420]

Stopped reading, here: '...this decade's appearance.' --- Most people know, what I mean.

[nuetzel]

Libre is sooo behind office. Its sad but I wish Libre got the resources it requires to make it competitive. There's not a slight chance it can compete with ms word or power point, lack of features, templates and even this decade's appearance.

Stopped reading, here: '...this decade's appearance.' --- Most people know, what I mean.

[onicsis]

For what I remember from 200X when was introduced MS Office ribbon what I heard not so pleasant surprise and was annoying, at least at first contact with new the UI.
And also seem to be a patent problem for this, also here

[elvenbone]

Btw, since this is Phoronix, I expected at least one person to infiltrate this thread to tell us all about how LaTeX beats any office suite. But nobody did lol

(never used LaTeX myself, looks too complex to me)

Ok, let's pretend you did not point me to it but I wanted to convert everyone to write LaTeX all along.

For documents intended for paper or PDF, LyX is a very nice and simple editor. LyX is like a wrapper to the LaTeX language, making it easy to write documents mostly without knowing LaTeX. Just don't rely on it for complex tables or hundreds of big pictures in one document.
For quick stuff like that yearly letter to the tax collection office it is perfect (when choosing or creating an appropriate template for letters once).
For writing a thesis on the other hand, I chose plain LaTeX.

One thing where Microsoft Office is just unsurpassed, is how good slideshow presentations can be created in Powerpoint. The time-spent vs. quality of the result and the amount of features to make a presentation asthetically pleasing to viewers is great. On the other hand presentations made with LibreOffice look like billboards from the 1960s.

If anyone knows a good email client which feels like Outlook and which has a clean UI look and big buttons for the most used functions (move, delete, spam, reply, add attachment), let me know. No, thunderbird doesn't have big buttons, my father disapproves.

[Vistaus]

Btw, since this is Phoronix, I expected at least one person to infiltrate this thread to tell us all about how LaTeX beats any office suite. But nobody did lol

(never used LaTeX myself, looks too complex to me)

[tildearrow]

True. When I need to use an Office suite, I'll typically go with Google Docs or LibreOffice. Microsoft Office has nothing I need nor want to give Microsoft money for it.

That said, with all the hate I'm seeing towards LibreOffice here, I decide to try out the 5 day trial version of Office Professional 2019 and it works alright on the Linux desktop. You just need to configure a *reverse* WSL2 type setup and make simple app launcher scripts for the office apps on your machine and you're good to go.

What is that? Arch Windows? Debian Microsoft/Windows?

How did you get the Linux window appear on top of the Windows ones with full decorations, shadows and even pixel masks?

[bigbruno]

True. When I need to use an Office suite, I'll typically go with Google Docs or LibreOffice. Microsoft Office has nothing I need nor want to give Microsoft money for it.

That said, with all the hate I'm seeing towards LibreOffice here, I decide to try out the 5 day trial version of Office Professional 2019 and it works alright on the Linux desktop. You just need to configure a *reverse* WSL2 type setup and make simple app launcher scripts for the office apps on your machine and you're good to go.

Please, share how you make this, i don't know what is "You just need to configure a *reverse* WSL2 type setup"

[tildearrow]

Libre is sooo behind office. Its sad but I wish Libre got the resources it requires to make it competitive. There's not a slight chance it can compete with ms word or power point, lack of features, templates and even this decade's appearance.

Its blocking my family to moving to Linux actually. They just need office and work with files other people send as docx , pptx etc

Linux people are about "systemd or sysvinit", PulseAudio/JACK/ALSA/whatever, everything that composes the system, Wayland, X11, compile from source, Meson CMake Autotools SCons waf, etc etc.

Average Joe doesn't care and should not care about that. He wants to use his system the normal way and let that be it.

[ferry]

That's ridiculous. I've had many occasions where LibreOffice screwed up the layout of my ODF documents that, btw, were created *and* only used in LibreOffice. So no, it's not a better standard, it's a more open standard, but it's the same crap as docx otherwise.

ODF is a standard, period. LibO is an application. If it deviates from the standard, that's a bug. Same if MS Office deviates from the ODF standard.

And yes, both formats don't always capture the way you intend the document to look like. For instance where do you want your graphics / charts etc.positioned?I would like them on the top of the page where the reference is, with text flowing above and under it (no gaps). A 2nd graphic should go to the bottom of the page and not overlap the first. And if I change paper size from Letter to A4 these rules should continue to be obeyed automatically. I don't know of any word processor that does this. It's a pain. If you don't want any changes to happen, choose pdf.

But many people position text using multiple spaces. Or tabs. And yes, that can be screwed up if letter spacing changes. If you know what you are doing and position stuff using tables you'll be better off. But there is room for improvement I give you that.