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  • #41
    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

    FireOS =! Android
    Millions of people just read your comment on their Android-9-based-FireOS-7 Kindle Fire HD 10's.
    https://developer.amazon.com/de/docs...fire-os-7.html

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
      That's not how you use the "Yo dawg" meme.
      I wasn't doing a meme

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

        FireOS =! Android
        Yes it's an Android reskin. What next, you are going to tell us that Samsung TouchWiz (better known as "lagwiz") isn't Android?

        Only devices not using Android that aren't running some custom firmware are some Samsung TVs and appliances that use Tizien or some other TVs using WebOS or something, and some low-end phones using a fork of the old FirefoxOS now called KaiOS and mostly proprietary afaik.

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        • #44
          tbh I feel as I'm the only one who actually likes unity (the older one).
          faster than kde/gnome, lenses are great so is unified top bar as well as appmenu. shame it's a dead project

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          • #45
            Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
            I wasn't doing a meme
            My post wasn't serious.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
              Yes it's an Android reskin.
              It's listed as an official Android fork, which is why it's not possible for others to sell FireOS devices (https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/go...Q4CrbrF1grFgcl) without losing Google Play access on devices with official Android. In fact, Fire OS is intentionally designed to be incompatible with Google's official Android compatibility standards (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...eans-necessary). So that does not count as being Android. If it does, then stop referring to NeoVim and just call it Vim 'cause that's the same thing too then, and also stop referring to Manjaro as a distro as it's basically just Arch (just to name two examples of other forked software).
              Last edited by Vistaus; 01-14-2020, 03:44 PM.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

                It's listed as an official Android fork .... So that does not count as being Android.
                Millions of people just listened to your comment being read aloud to them on their Android-based-FireOS Amazon Alexa and Echo devices. And then they said, "Alexa! Don't read me any more comments by Vistaus. He talks in circles and its annoying."

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Britoid View Post

                  You said Play Store vs Flatpak. A better analogy would of been Flatpak vs APK or Play Store vs Flathub.

                  Android and Silverblue actually achieve read-only root in very different ways, Silverblue does not use a separate partition read-only root (out the box /var and /usr will be on the same partition). /usr is marked as read-only because writing anything there would get lost when it's relinked.
                  My bad, I treat Flatpak and Flathub like they're synonymous. But Play/Hub do have more in common with each other (when compared to traditional package management) and are both used in similar manners -- end-user application installation w/o the need for root-level systems access. It's not like that's something commonly done with apt or pacman outside of hardcore geeks running stuff out of chroots on locked down corporate machines (aren't very many other reasons to have to use most package managers like that outside of full-on retard paranoia).

                  But the gist of what they're doing is the same -- root/system-space and userspace are separate; systemspace gets its updates from vendor (LG or Fedora/Android or SB); userspace gets its updates from package manager (flats/snaps or Play/Amazon).

                  While there are obvious technological differences, Android has more in common with Silverblue than is does with any other distribution.

                  You're right on that partition setup, however, Silverblue does allow putting /, /var, swap, and /boot (and /var/* directories which includes /var/$HOME) on their own partition/disk. From there, a decent amount of the system can be mounted as read-only (though it could be better when compared to how well Android pulls a read-only root off).

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
                    It's listed as an official Android fork, which is why it's not possible for others to sell FireOS devices
                    You can't sell TouchWiz or EMUI or even Android One firmware on your devices (in the sense of you can't put it on your own devices and sell them with it) either. Does not make them non-Android.

                    without losing Google Play access on devices with official Android.
                    That's just a whitelist, any rooted device can report itself as "Google Nexus" to the Play store and have full access to anything, or as "Sony something" to have access to Sony-branded applications like say this music player https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...music&hl=en_US that is 100% not specific for shit but still I can't install it on my devices because they don't report themselves as "Sony something".

                    If you do so you can install whatever.

                    In fact, Fire OS is intentionally designed to be incompatible with Google's official Android compatibility standards
                    Which is a complete crock of shit because you can install Google Play on them just fine https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/1...n-fire-tablet/
                    and you always could since the beginning of time.

                    Or use tools to do it https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8...-v1-0-t3889604

                    and also stop referring to Manjaro as a distro as it's basically just Arch (just to name two examples of other forked software).
                    Your statements are that FireOS is somehow completely different and "not Android", it's like saying Manjaro is somehow completely different and "not Arch" or Ubuntu is absolutely "not Debian" when I can literally add the same fucking repos of the parent distro (akin to adding Google Play) and download and install and use applications from there with no issues whatsoever.

                    If you want to make bold

                    "something"!= Android

                    statements without TRIGGERING people please choose something that isn't a direct reskin derivative, like for example

                    OpenSUSE!=Android

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
                      statements without TRIGGERING people please choose something that isn't a direct reskin derivative, like for example

                      OpenSUSE!=Android
                      OpenSUSE -- Linux Kernel with random patches
                      Android -- Linux Kernel with random patches
                      Ubuntu -- Linux Kernel with random patches
                      Manjaro -- Linux Kernel with random patches
                      Arch -- Linux Kernel with random patches

                      OpenSUSE -- cp /some/file /some/file.bak
                      Android -- cp /some/file /some/file.bak
                      Ubuntu -- cp /some/file /some/file.bak
                      Manjaro -- cp /some/file /some/file.bak
                      Arch -- cp /some/file /some/file.bak

                      OpenSUSE -- KDE Plasma
                      Android -- Home Launcher
                      Ubuntu -- Gnome
                      Manjaro -- KDE Plasma, Gnome, XFCE
                      Arch -- CLI

                      If anything, Arch Linux not having an official graphical interface makes them the odd man out since we've determined that they all use the Linux Kernel with random patches, they all have the same underlying low-level tools, and all have an interface of some kind.

                      I just know that someone will point out toybox vs busybox and my response to that is

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