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Originally posted by MadeUpName View PostThis is good news. I look forward to trying it out. I was hoping that libraw would have their fall release out in time for this so we would get .CR3 file support but I guess that isn't to be. Maybe for 3.1.
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Originally posted by GrayShade View PostI tried to use Darktable and RawTherapee a couple of times, but couldn't really get around the UI. I would like see the photos in full screen, zoom with the mouse to 1:1 at one position and back, and label or delete the photos or switch the the next and previous one with a keyboard shortcut. I think this is a basic culling workflow where you remove the bad pictures and keep the good ones.
Neither of the projects supports it.Originally posted by Tuxee View PostLet's see. Darktable. Zoom to 100%? Middle mouse button (centered where the mouse cursor sits). Next image? Space. Previous image? Backspace. Starring? Keys 1-5. Marking for deletion? Del.
Maybe you should invest a minimum amount of reading a documentation or at least trying to hit some keys randomly...
In any way, a better culling process is reverse-culling: you only mark what you think is better than others, then you delete everything not marked without looking at them. That is faster if you do a lot of photos and it prevents to keep many useless photos that does not look bad enough to be deleted but have to be dropped because less is more. Never look at the unmarked photo before deleting them, because many of them would still look good enough and would still look better than others, so you would end marking useless photos to keep them.
Note that since I don't have direct access to numbers on keyboard (french azerty layout), I uses colors (F1-F5) for marking. It's better to use colors for marking as they don't conflict with stars I may already set while working on the camera body on the field. I use colors as temporary metadata to group some photos for processing, while stars is real metadata that can be kept in delivered files. You can also use various colors for various meaning: no color: to be deleted, red: to be kept, green: portrait, blue: part of a panorama that you must assemble with a third party tool like hugin, etc… Filtering by colors makes group processing easier, and you can also use color grouping to edit metadata like adding stars…
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Darktable is my tool of choice for RAW development, though I also think that some parts of the UI aren't actually intuitive. At least some won't really work for me.
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You can customize shortcuts, but having to hold a key pressed for preview is kinda' weird. Not sure about RawTherapee, I couldn't find the keyboard settings, but they might still be customizable.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostAre you guys arguing about the default control scheme?
Does this application not allow the user to set his own buttons to do that? That's unacceptable for a serious application in 2019, but otherwise I think your argument is kind of moot.
I really liked what I saw in Darktable, but I need more time with it, I don't know how well it handles local selections and those are kind of a must for me.
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Originally posted by 144Hz View PostThank God for GTK3. It makes things so consistent yet easy to theme.
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Originally posted by GrayShade View Post
Full-screen? F11, then hold z? I'm not going to hold z while going through 1 000 photos. Middle-click? That's a bit uncomfortable on a touchpad. Next/prev image takes a while to load.
RawTherapee? F11, then m for "preview", but it's not true full-screen, it leaves a lot of UI shown. Zoom to 100%? Double-click, fine. Next/prev image? F4 and Shift-F4, but they don't work reliably, and it takes a second or so to load the images.
And I think it's better now than when I tried last time. Compare that to Bridge: full-screen is space, next/prev are on arrows and load instantly, 100% zoom is left click.
Does this application not allow the user to set his own buttons to do that? That's unacceptable for a serious application in 2019, but otherwise I think your argument is kind of moot.
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This is good news. I look forward to trying it out. I was hoping that libraw would have their fall release out in time for this so we would get .CR3 file support but I guess that isn't to be. Maybe for 3.1.
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