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  • Xfce 4.16 To Drop GTK2 Support, Explore Some Client-Side Decorations

    Phoronix: Xfce 4.16 To Drop GTK2 Support, Explore Some Client-Side Decorations

    Prominent Xfce developer Simon Steinbeiß has shared more of the group's plans for the planned 2020 release of Xfce 4.16...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...-Feature-Plans

  • #2
    Sounds reasonable. CSD proved to be the way forward.

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    • #3
      please say no to CSD
      thats one of the reasons why i just cant use gnome (other reason is taskbar icons - i just need some and i hate it that they brake so easily)

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      • #4
        FYI xfce4-panel-4.15.0 got released

        What I like to ask is this:

        xfce4-notifyd has a different behaviour with "switching tabs" than e.g. other xfce4 applications. The site from Simon talks about "consolidating" the views of programs. And therefore I'd like to know if notifyd will adopt the "tabs" or "notebook" widget from other xfce4 applications or will all other xfce4 applications switch to notifyd like "tabs" (notebook) widgets for switching sections inside the window ?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by flower View Post
          please say no to CSD
          thats one of the reasons why i just cant use gnome (other reason is taskbar icons - i just need some and i hate it that they brake so easily)


          20 years of just say no gave us legal weed

          Just sayin that those who know how to program need to be a little more proactive than saying no

          Flood them with SSD pull requests or fork Gnome/GTK3/4 to make usable SSD versions and promote those

          Call it Crane and CTK. Cranes are the enemy of Garden Gnomes

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          • #6
            Now with GTK2 being ditched, has Xfce done any progress on the Wayland front?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by uid313 View Post
              Now with GTK2 being ditched, has Xfce done any progress on the Wayland front?
              afaik they still need a wayland compatible wm.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by flower View Post
                please say no to CSD
                Too late, they already said yes.

                Time to use something sane like LXQt or Plasma then.

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                • #9
                  They could make them optional. Celluloid and Polo File Manager, for example, let you choose between CSD or traditional title bar + menu. It Xfce would offer the same, I think everyone would be happy.

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                  • #10
                    (please note that client side decorations are not the same as HeaderBars!).
                    Thank god someone said it, the confusion people have around this is super annoying and if often repeated by people who know better. looks at KDE

                    Headerbars are a design choice that's somewhat unique to GNOME, client-side decoration is a technical choice, that's not unique to GNOME and is mainly the norm outside of X.

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