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  • Fedora 31 Lands Good GStreamer AAC & H.264 Support

    Phoronix: Fedora 31 Lands Good GStreamer AAC & H.264 Support

    On top of many other changes for Fedora Workstation 31, this next release of Fedora Linux continues to improve the experience for proprietary multimedia codecs where the patents have lapsed...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...etter-AAC-H264

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    It would be great if Fedora had the means to automatically compile and install mpv, ffmpeg, x264 and x265 'cause while this change is nice it's really incomplete as too many codecs are still not supported out of the box. And certainly you cannot encode/reencode videos into h264 and h265.

    Yes, I perfectly know about RPMFusion but most users will not bother installing and enabling it. Also RPMFusion is a third-party project not affiliated with RH/Fedora in any shape or form, so there's an issue of trust. I used their packages in the past but nowadays I compile from sources.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by birdie View Post
      It would be great if Fedora had the means to automatically compile and install mpv, ffmpeg, x264 and x265 'cause while this change is nice it's really incomplete as too many codecs are still not supported out of the box. And certainly you cannot encode/reencode videos into h264 and h265.
      Fedora can't do that

      https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Software_Patents

      Providing a means to automatically compile is no different from providing the binary packages from a legal perspective

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      • #4
        Originally posted by birdie View Post
        It would be great if Fedora had the means to automatically compile and install mpv, ffmpeg, x264 and x265 'cause while this change is nice it's really incomplete as too many codecs are still not supported out of the box. And certainly you cannot encode/reencode videos into h264 and h265.

        Yes, I perfectly know about RPMFusion but most users will not bother installing and enabling it. Also RPMFusion is a third-party project not affiliated with RH/Fedora in any shape or form, so there's an issue of trust. I used their packages in the past but nowadays I compile from sources.
        You can also grab them from Flathub.

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        • #5
          This is why we need AV1 and Opus to become the industry standards.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by RahulSundaram View Post

            Fedora can't do that

            https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Software_Patents

            Providing a means to automatically compile is no different from providing the binary packages from a legal perspective
            This is the type of idiotic thinking that prevents me from using Fedora or even considering it a serious product.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by RahulSundaram View Post

              Fedora can't do that

              https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Software_Patents

              Providing a means to automatically compile is no different from providing the binary packages from a legal perspective
              This doesn't make any sense and I'm almost sure that's not factually correct. Nothing prevents Fedora from hosting a bash script which can do all of that automatically.

              Originally posted by treba View Post
              This is why we need AV1 and Opus to become the industry standards.
              At the moment AV1 is not a codec for end users as it's simply too computationally expensive to be usable. Even VP9, which AV1 based on, is significantly slower than the already slow x265 codec. AV1 could be a good codec for streaming content but that's about it.

              Originally posted by treba View Post
              This is why we need AV1 and Opus to become the industry standards.
              So, instead of trusting RPMFusion you offer me to trust random Joes distributing content on Flathub? No thanks. And I don't want to have hundreds of megabytes of wasted space because Flatpaks come with everything starting with glibc.
              Last edited by birdie; 09-25-2019, 09:20 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by birdie View Post

                This doesn't make any sense and I'm almost sure that's not factually correct. Nothing prevents Fedora from hosting a bash script which can do all of that automatically.
                Quoted directly from the Fedora patent page:

                Can't you link to third party repositories and guide users to find such software?

                In general, no, because of the risk of liability for contributory patent infringement. Refer here for more details.
                Technically speaking, a bash script would fall under the "guide users" part.

                Dumb crap like needing "unaffiliated with the distribution multimedia repositories" was enough to drive me away from most of the mainstream, big player distributions over a decade ago.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

                  Quoted directly from the Fedora patent page:



                  Technically speaking, a bash script would fall under the "guide users" part.

                  Dumb crap like needing "unaffiliated with the distribution multimedia repositories" was enough to drive me away from most of the mainstream, big player distributions over a decade ago.
                  Yeah, right and at the same time:

                  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US...tup_rpmfusion/

                  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Third_party_repositories

                  So, hosting links to patent-infringing repos is OK while having a script for that is not OK. There's so much sense to it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by birdie View Post

                    Yeah, right and at the same time:

                    https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US...tup_rpmfusion/

                    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Third_party_repositories

                    So, hosting links to patent-infringing repos is OK while having a script for that is not OK. There's so much sense to it.
                    They're community created pages.

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