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  • #51
    Originally posted by Volta View Post

    Then I wonder why their launcher is against this philosophy?
    What are you talking about. <Super> + T(e) is a lot of work to launch a terminal I know. It's a very slow and complicated launcher. suuure..

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    • #52
      Originally posted by retardxfce View Post
      There is no proper way to select files in gnome.

      Filepicker in Gnome.


      Filepicker in windows

      Filepicker in KDE
      I noticed you left out a picture of Mac's Finder. (that is very similar to Gnome) It does not have a text input nor does it generate thumbnails.

      And I actually don't want this. I think KDE gets it wrong. The Filepicker shouldn't be the same as the file manager. Looking at Android (tho it varries) most on it it are also similar. There is no thumbnail and no text entry bar. I'm not saying the Gnome filepicker couldn't need to some work.. but I don't want to see thumbnails and I think a text box is unnecessary when you have favorite folders on the left. This is the mindset of a poweruser and it's slow and needless. (Gnome also does provide a thumbnail preview, but only when you select the file over on the right)

      You are showing cluttered designs with unnecessary features for the task the user is trying to accomplish.
      Last edited by k1e0x; 09-13-2019, 06:13 PM.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by k1e0x View Post

        What are you talking about. <Super> + T(e) is a lot of work to launch a terminal I know. It's a very slow and complicated launcher. suuure..
        What about vlc, krita and dozens of different applications? Do you want me to study shortcuts for them? You're insane. Gnome launcher is a mess. No categories and covers entire screen for no reason. I'm not blind and I'd like to know their motives to design it this way.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
          But the worst of everything is that sometimes when saving a file using Audacity (which displays the GNOME file picker) and clicking a folder name from the left panel, it doesn't put me on the "File name" box when typing. No. It puts me on the Search box. Who would want to search something at save time?! All I want to do is to click a folder, write the file name, press Enter and that's it. But no, I have to click a folder, explicitly click on the "File name" box, write the name and press Enter. If I don't click on the "File name" box it searches. What in the heck!
          ^This!

          That filepicker behavior is so incredibly awful and counter-intuitive that I doubt my own sanity every time I use it. Every time it makes me think I hit a wrong button or am somehow not understanding some fundamental concept of computing. How can the file name box not get focus when you are trying to save a file???
          Last edited by sb56637; 09-13-2019, 06:36 PM.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Volta View Post

            What about vlc, krita and dozens of different applications? Do you want me to study shortcuts for them? You're insane. Gnome launcher is a mess. No categories and covers entire screen for no reason. I'm not blind and I'd like to know their motives to design it this way.
            <super>+vlc? Have you even used Gnome? MacOS is the same way now. (Gnome had it first in 3.0)
            In Mac spotlight is <command space>
            (I think Windows 10 is the same way too but it's slightly broken and returns weird things on search)

            Nobody digs through menus for apps. There are too many. 2010 is calling my friend, time to evolve.
            Last edited by k1e0x; 09-13-2019, 06:46 PM.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by sb56637 View Post

              ^This!

              That filepicker behavior is so incredibly awful and counter-intuitive that I doubt my own sanity every time I use it. Every time it makes me think I hit a wrong button or am somehow not understanding some fundamental concept of computing. How can the file name box not get focus when you are trying to save a file???
              I think this is true. That does suck clicking the text box.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by k1e0x View Post

                I noticed you left out a picture of Mac's Finder. (that is very similar to Gnome) It does not have a text input nor does it generate thumbnails.

                And I actually don't want this. I think KDE gets it wrong. The Filepicker shouldn't be the same as the file manager. Looking at Android (tho it varries) most on it it are also similar. There is no thumbnail and no text entry bar. I'm not saying the Gnome filepicker couldn't need to some work.. but I don't want to see thumbnails and I think a text box is unnecessary when you have favorite folders on the left. This is the mindset of a poweruser and it's slow and needless. (Gnome also does provide a thumbnail preview, but only when you select the file over on the right)

                You are showing cluttered designs with unnecessary features for the task the user is trying to accomplish.
                Here we witness mental gymnastics of gnome users to cope with their shitty DE. Thumbnails in filepicker are absolutely necessary for any sort of media work or usage. Just because you dont use a feature doesnt mean it shouldnt exist.

                Also in KDE you can turn off thumbnails in the filepicker if you want it to be as useless as gnome.
                Last edited by retardxfce; 09-13-2019, 06:50 PM.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by retardxfce View Post

                  Here we witness mental gymnastics of gnome users to cope with their shitty DE. Thumbnails in filepicker are absolutely necessary for any sort of media work or usage. Just because you dont use a feature doesnt mean it shouldnt exist.

                  Also in KDE you can turn off thumbnails in the filepicker if you want it to be as useless as gnome.
                  Why don't any other modern DE's have it? Just Windows and KDE. (and windows had it since Vista... yay. The txt box is prob a throwback to Windows 3.1, I'm pretty sure it is. KDE has this in.. KDE 2?.. it's a dated design.)

                  It's clutter and like I said before, Gnome does show a thumbnail, but only for the selected file.
                  Last edited by k1e0x; 09-13-2019, 06:56 PM.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by k1e0x View Post

                    Why don't any other modern DE's have it? Just Windows and KDE. (and windows had it since Vista... yay the txt box is prob a throwback to Windows 3.1)
                    "just windows" is majority of the market share. Again the mental gymnastics of gnome users. "no modern OS has it, windows vista/7/8/8.1/10 and KDE doesnt count".

                    Why do gnome users keep crying to get a filepicker but gnome devs simply dont care ?

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by retardxfce View Post

                      "just windows" is majority of the market share. Again the mental gymnastics of gnome users. "no modern OS has it, windows vista/7/8/8.1/10 and KDE doesnt count".

                      Why do gnome users keep crying to get a filepicker but gnome devs simply dont care ?
                      Because it's old windows 3.1 garbage legacy trash and we don't want it? lol

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