GNOME 3.34 RC2 Available For Final Testing Of This Big Desktop Update

[Britoid]

tildearrow GNOME is by far the most extendable and themable desktop. That’s why most downstream use it. That includes traditional distributions like Debian, RHEL, SLED, Ubuntu and Fedora. And now it also includes custom builds like Pop, Elementary and Endless.

If you strongly need to discuss other desktop variants then move it to appropriate discussion threads.

Elementary does not use GNOME, it does use some GNOME technologies though.

[tildearrow]

tildearrow GNOME is by far the most extendable and themable desktop. That’s why most downstream use it. That includes traditional distributions like Debian, RHEL, SLED, Ubuntu and Fedora. And now it also includes custom builds like Pop, Elementary and Endless.

If you strongly need to discuss other desktop variants then move it to appropriate discussion threads.

OK, look. I haven't mentioned other desktops for a while. Can you stop?

[tildearrow]

Some people might even argue, that GNOME is very customizable using it's extension system. I didn't dug too deep with the few extensions I wrote.

The extension system is very prone to API/ABI breakage...

[Vistaus]

tildearrow please keep the KDE talk to a minimum.

He didn't even promote Plasma (yes, Plasma, NOT KDE), he made a fair comparison of trailers. Nothing wrong with that.

[RahulSundaram]

The extension system is very prone to API/ABI breakage...

Doesn't make much sense to talk about ABI for javascript bindings and API hasn't changed in any serious for the past several releases and that's the reason new releases don't automatically mark extensions as incompatible anymore. Largely because the shell doesn't change as much as it did in the earlier major releases

[Vistaus]

Actually thats not the case. Most people have someone who installes "linux" for them and put some extension to it to make it work like windows. Others, who come from themself to linux dont even expect it to be like windows, because, well - it's not Windows.

The other way around my mother have has some huge issues on KDE because its "windows like" but a bit different and that was the reason she got really frustratet. Not so much since I switched her to Gnome.


I also dont see gnome struggle.

You can install as many extensions as you want, but GNOME will never be as Windows-like as Plasma, TDE (esp. on Q4OS) and Cinnamon.

[Vistaus]

Sadly, yes:
- The top bar

macOS also has a top bar, but the way it works in GNOME was copied from webOS.

- The full-screen app launcher

macOS didn't even have a full-screen app launcher when GNOME first showcased it.

- CSD

macOS has CSD, but they copied it from Xerox GlobalView, so technically GNOME also copied Xerox: http://toastytech.com/guis/gv.html

- The lack of customization options

macOS is not the only DE/OS with a lack of customization options, but given its popularity compared to some of the others, it might have inspired them.

[retardxfce]

Sadly, yes:
- The top bar
- The full-screen app launcher
- CSD
- The lack of customization options

Top Bar is Mac? Then XFCE, Gnome 2, Mate, sway WM, are Mac clones. I move the bar to the top in KDE and windows because I prefer it that way = mac clone?

full screen app launcher? If anything it's a windows 8 clone or a android tablet clone, but not Mac.

you can easily change the theme, icons and many other things in gnome. There is hardly a lack of customisation.

[amehaye]

Doesn't make much sense to talk about ABI for javascript bindings and API hasn't changed in any serious for the past several releases and that's the reason new releases don't automatically mark extensions as incompatible anymore. Largely because the shell doesn't change as much as it did in the earlier major releases

I'm using a few GNOME Shell extensions on a daily basis. However I'm not acquainted with the internal working - is it like similar to Chrome/Firefox web extensions, with a well-defined API? I also wonder about the security implications - IIUC extensions generally have access to everything the shell has access to. This makes it possible for a nefarious extension to steal credentials etc. Is there some 'permission' model for GNOME Shell extensions?

[Candy]

GNOME died many years ago, when its own (initial) creators abandoned it for MacOSX. The thing we have nowadays is only made for the remaining 50 die hard people who still believe that they created a leading desktop. People who woke up from this moved on to Windows, macOS or switched to something not GNOME related (besides that GNOME 2 fork) made few years ago.