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  • #21
    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post

    Sadly, yes:
    - The top bar
    - The full-screen app launcher
    - CSD
    - The lack of customization options
    - Eh, the top bar achieves different things on macOS.
    - The full screen app launcher is more of a Spotlight clone
    - Whilst macOS has used them since the very beginning, Windows has supported them for a long time too.
    - I don't think this is copied from macOS.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by tildearrow View Post

      Most, but GNOME sort of limits the user's ability to customize the workflow.
      Maybe, but as long as the requirements are met with the options which are there (settings, (self-made) extensions) and the desktop works stable, then everything is fine.

      Some people might even argue, that GNOME is very customizable using it's extension system. I didn't dug too deep with the few extensions I wrote.

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      • #23
        tildearrow GNOME is by far the most extendable and themable desktop. That’s why most downstream use it. That includes traditional distributions like Debian, RHEL, SLED, Ubuntu and Fedora. And now it also includes custom builds like Pop, Elementary and Endless.

        If you strongly need to discuss other desktop variants then move it to appropriate discussion threads.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
          tildearrow GNOME is by far the most extendable and themable desktop. That’s why most downstream use it. That includes traditional distributions like Debian, RHEL, SLED, Ubuntu and Fedora. And now it also includes custom builds like Pop, Elementary and Endless.

          If you strongly need to discuss other desktop variants then move it to appropriate discussion threads.
          Elementary does not use GNOME, it does use some GNOME technologies though.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
            tildearrow GNOME is by far the most extendable and themable desktop. That’s why most downstream use it. That includes traditional distributions like Debian, RHEL, SLED, Ubuntu and Fedora. And now it also includes custom builds like Pop, Elementary and Endless.

            If you strongly need to discuss other desktop variants then move it to appropriate discussion threads.
            OK, look. I haven't mentioned other desktops for a while. Can you stop?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by oleid View Post
              Some people might even argue, that GNOME is very customizable using it's extension system. I didn't dug too deep with the few extensions I wrote.
              The extension system is very prone to API/ABI breakage...

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              • #27
                Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
                tildearrow please keep the KDE talk to a minimum.
                He didn't even promote Plasma (yes, Plasma, NOT KDE), he made a fair comparison of trailers. Nothing wrong with that.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by tildearrow View Post

                  The extension system is very prone to API/ABI breakage...
                  Doesn't make much sense to talk about ABI for javascript bindings and API hasn't changed in any serious for the past several releases and that's the reason new releases don't automatically mark extensions as incompatible anymore. Largely because the shell doesn't change as much as it did in the earlier major releases

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by lumks View Post

                    Actually thats not the case. Most people have someone who installes "linux" for them and put some extension to it to make it work like windows. Others, who come from themself to linux dont even expect it to be like windows, because, well - it's not Windows.

                    The other way around my mother have has some huge issues on KDE because its "windows like" but a bit different and that was the reason she got really frustratet. Not so much since I switched her to Gnome.


                    I also dont see gnome struggle.
                    You can install as many extensions as you want, but GNOME will never be as Windows-like as Plasma, TDE (esp. on Q4OS) and Cinnamon.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
                      Sadly, yes:
                      - The top bar
                      macOS also has a top bar, but the way it works in GNOME was copied from webOS.

                      Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
                      - The full-screen app launcher
                      macOS didn't even have a full-screen app launcher when GNOME first showcased it.

                      Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
                      - CSD
                      macOS has CSD, but they copied it from Xerox GlobalView, so technically GNOME also copied Xerox: http://toastytech.com/guis/gv.html

                      Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
                      - The lack of customization options
                      macOS is not the only DE/OS with a lack of customization options, but given its popularity compared to some of the others, it might have inspired them.
                      Last edited by Vistaus; 09-07-2019, 12:38 PM.

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