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  • #21
    Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
    IBM only recently bought RH. This does not make everyone a IBM employee retroactively.
    Everyone outside of XFCE and Debian is an IBM employee including you, a paid IBM troll.

    Originally posted by R41N3R View Post
    Plasma on Wayland really could see some attention by the developers. Overall it is working quite well for me on most of my machines (only on a AMD Ryzen 3 2200G it refuses to start and only flickers since some months), it has some nice features (night color mode), theoretically it should be feature complete, main development target, get LTS support, but the only real gap is that bugs get addressed in an acceptable time frame. There should be a possibility to increase priority for things like NUM lock prevents you from switching windows, copy and paste does not always work as expected, drag and drop is not consistent, turn monitor off and on results in a kwin crash, incorrect rendering of sub surfaces and flickering, stability of Plasma, ...
    I do use Plasma Wayland all the time, there are several workarounds to avoid running into bugs, but especially for new users willing to switch I can understand that it feels annoying!
    Wayland has been developed for 50 years and its still not usable. This is why nobody takes IBM software seriously. Wayland is an Illuminaty invention to kill the Linux desktop by replacing a good working software (Xorg) with very bad and buggy, low performance and super unsmooth software (Wayland). The illuminaty hates Linux and loves wayland.
    Last edited by retardxfce; 05-17-2019, 06:24 AM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
      IBM only recently bought RH. This does not make everyone a IBM employee retroactively.
      Everyone outside of XFCE and Debian is an IBM employee including you, a paid IBM troll.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by OlafLostViking View Post
        Baguy , R41N3R , @all other Wayland users:
        Now I wonder how your experience with dynamic (notebook used stand-alone and in docking stations) multi-monitor setups is with Wayland? Would it be worth the trouble trying to switch again? Thank you guys!
        I'm using xfce+mint on Nvidia Fermi with Nouveau, for my multi monitor desktop and laptop setups.
        Except using two monitors, I regularly plug in an external monitor to the laptop (the HDMI out is via Intel GMA graphics, and built-in laptop screen is on eDP over Intel GMA).

        It works fantastically, I never had any issues. The GPU power saving works flawlesly, and so does the PRIME GPU offloading on Intel GMA / Nvidia Fermi laptop. Xfce immediatelly recognizes any external displays when they are plugged in. To be safe, I always put the laptop to sleep before plugging in an external monitor.

        On the multi-monitor desktop, power saving works flawleslly. It works better then in Windows, there I have to use Nvidia Inspector to force the GPU into a low-power state (otherwise I can hear the fans spinning). On xfce+mint, this issue is nonexistant.

        I also often turn off one monitor to connect it to Raspberry PI or to the laptop, and then reconnect it later. Never had any issues.

        Ok, obviously, this all applies to Xorg, not Wayland, since Xfce can't work on Wayland yet.
        Last edited by xfcemint; 05-17-2019, 06:56 AM.

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        • #24
          don't need none of this kde red hat shit, soon enough kde will follow gNOME and require systemd and destroy our freedom cause of ibm red hat microsoft anti-linux desktop destroyers.

          only saviour is devuan, respects freedom unlike buggy unreliable poeterring software like stupid gnome, heel my advice i warn you, im trying to safe you.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by R41N3R View Post
            Plasma on Wayland really could see some attention by the developers. Overall it is working quite well for me on most of my machines (only on a AMD Ryzen 3 2200G it refuses to start and only flickers since some months), it has some nice features (night color mode), theoretically it should be feature complete, main development target, get LTS support, but the only real gap is that bugs get addressed in an acceptable time frame. There should be a possibility to increase priority for things like NUM lock prevents you from switching windows, copy and paste does not always work as expected, drag and drop is not consistent, turn monitor off and on results in a kwin crash, incorrect rendering of sub surfaces and flickering, stability of Plasma, ...
            I do use Plasma Wayland all the time, there are several workarounds to avoid running into bugs, but especially for new users willing to switch I can understand that it feels annoying!
            If you look at the full changelog, there's a ton of wayland improvements coming through.

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            • #26
              this ****xfce trolling is getting out of hand lately

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              • #27
                Overall, a lot of these changes seem pretty cool and non-intrusive. I don't like it when a change means sacrificing something (whether that be functionality, a feature, user-friendliness, etc) but that doesn't seem to be the case here. This update also fixes several issues I had (very minor and ignorable ones, but still problems nonetheless) and improves upon things I didn't even notice were faulty.
                I wonder if some of my other minor issues have also been fixed but holy crap that changelog is long. I think it'll be faster and easier to just try out the update and see if those issues are gone.

                Good work KDE devs.

                Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
                this ****xfce trolling is getting out of hand lately
                It is, though I also find it absolutely hilarious, especially when the original pitches in and inadvertently blends in so well.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
                  Fixed version: Gnome3 has been in development by 10K IBM workers for 10 years and still more bloated and with less features than XFCE developed by a small group, the best, smoothest and fasted Linux desktop environment. XFCE is complete, it does not need further development only maintenance.
                  Hey, it's the original, we were looking for you! How's it going, I don't know what we'd do here without all your insightful comments. Keep it up buddy, I'm sure your parents are really proud of your commenting prowess.

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                  • #29
                    @nhgraham I wish you guys would add a general source, so instead of having to compile all the different components, you could just download all of the components in one package and compile them all at the same time (maybe similar to LXQt with a build_all script? https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt).

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
                      @nhgraham I wish you guys would add a general source, so instead of having to compile all the different components, you could just download all of the components in one package and compile them all at the same time (maybe similar to LXQt with a build_all script? https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt).
                      They actually do have something like that now, called kdesrc_build

                      It's definitely in early stages but already works quite well in my experience.

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