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KWin-LowLatency: An Effort To Yield Less Stutter & Lower Latency With The KDE Desktop
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Originally posted by fuzz View PostReally? Because KWin on wayland is completely broken for the majority of users, as far as I can tell.
Their rejection of auto-unredirect for fullscreen is pathetic too, like if I would always want to manually switch compositing on and off when alt + tabbing while gaming...
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Originally posted by fuzz View PostReally? Because KWin on wayland is completely broken for the majority of users, as far as I can tell.
Really not as broken as you would first presume. KWin on wayland has some very interesting new testing features. Like this one where you can test for multi display output with a single display.
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Originally posted by M@GOid View PostStrange, here works fine. What is exactly the problem? What is your setup? I use a AMD card with radeonsi driver, VLC video player and KDE to watch F1 races on my PC (using a PixelView USB adapter), but here is a 60Hz broadcast and I use a 120Hz Benq monitor.
NVidia driver on a 165Hz display. (I only use 120Hz or 100Hz for the desktop, depending on whether I watch 24/30/60FPS video (movies, NTSC) or 25/50FPS (PAL) video. The attitude of the kwin developers is the usual "the human eye can't see more than blah blah frames per second" or "nobody needs a display with more than 60Hz" nonsense.
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Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
So deprecating X11 path before Wayland path is in production quality state is bizarre. And adaptive sync situation is even worse, due to Wayland protocol itself missing features:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayla...land/issues/84
e.g. FreeSync Upcoming DRM feature: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2018-October/192874.html 11:13 Shibe, SardemFF7, emersion, DRM freesync support as currently designed will ...
I'm KDE user, and would like to switch to Wayland, but it's just not ready yet. And it seems it will still take years to get to a modern Wayland + Vulkan compositing.
See also: https://github.com/swaywm/wlroots/pull/1214
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Originally posted by czz0 View PostWayland will always be useless for gaming so long as they keep forcing Vsync, with no way to disable it.
The fact that Wayland and Gnome developers thought it would be okay to force Vsync and even hard cap the refresh rate to 60Hz (only recently fixed in Gnome), makes me have almost zero trust in them for gaming performance.
I agree being able to disable it would be nice, but I don't think it's as big of a detriment as you think.
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostWhat exactly is resulting in the stuttering? My crappy i3 Haswell laptop with integrated graphics works very smoothly with kwin+Wayland, even with the compositing effects and high CPU load. Although I don't think a Vulkan compositor needs to be a high priority, I do think it's a better idea than whatever else they intend to do to improve latency.
Speak for yourself. Even though my gaming PC uses X11, I deliberately keep vsync on because I prefer a tear-free experience over input latency. Sure, a hard cap of 60Hz is dumb (assuming your display goes higher) and I agree there should be a [user-friendly] way to disable vsync, but you are heavily exaggerating your preferences as though they're what everyone else prefers.
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