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    Phoronix: KDE Saw More System Settings Work While EGLStreams KWin Support Stole The Show

    Most exciting this week in KDE space was seeing KWin pick up support for the NVIDIA EGLStreams implementation for Wayland with this proprietary graphics driver. Beyond the EGLStreams KWin support were also many fixes and other improvements to the desktop landing this Easter week...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...EGLStreams-KDE

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    NVIDIA's not getting any of my money. They really fucked this up, and set back desktop Wayland adoption by a pretty big margin, and offloaded most of the work onto the community. I hope their automotive play is undercut by Qualcomm, who at least aren't preventing anyone from bringing their hardware up.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by microcode View Post
      NVIDIA's not getting any of my money. They really fucked this up, and set back desktop Wayland adoption by a pretty big margin
      Wayland is fucked up by design and is for servers and not for desktops. Read the history of wayland.

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      • #4
        After reading this news I checked Martin's blog and was shocked to see he didn't write any rant about this...
        He was so keen to rant against and to sabotage Mir support...
        Yeah I know he's not anymore in charge of Kwin development but still...

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        • #5
          As Wayland is now available to many new users, I hope that Plasma Wayland will receive some love. Several bugs are open since too long and I'm not talking about features! SDDM should have been ported to Wayland as well long time ago, it's really sad to see this major component struggling merging the necessary bits.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sonnet View Post
            After reading this news I checked Martin's blog and was shocked to see he didn't write any rant about this...
            He was so keen to rant against and to sabotage Mir support...
            Yeah I know he's not anymore in charge of Kwin development but still...
            Not all the work could have been done by him alone anyway ;-)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
              Wayland is fucked up by design and is for servers and not for desktops. Read the history of wayland.
              I didn't think you could be any more of an idiot.

              Before the nVidia hate comes on, there's technical reasons why nVidia can't use GBM which can't be fixed without redoing they're entire driver, namely that most of nVidias' driver exist in userspace whereas GBM is kernel space. Wayland itself is backend agnostic, thus never defines the use of GBM, but compositors built against it because it was there.

              GBM isn't perfect, it has design problems which cause problems for VR. Either Mesa needs to fix up GBMs design or we need a new allocator, which was nVidias suggestion . KWIN and GNOME implementing EGLStreams is because this failed to happen and we risk being stuck using X.org forever.

              imho it shouldn't be in kernel space anyway.
              Last edited by Britoid; 04-21-2019, 01:32 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Britoid View Post

                I didn't think you could be any more of an idiot.

                Before the nVidia hate comes on, there's technical reasons why nVidia can't use GBM which can't be fixed without redoing they're entire driver, namely that most of nVidias' driver exist in userspace whereas GBM is kernel space. Wayland itself is backend agnostic, thus never defines the use of GBM, but compositors built against it because it was there.

                GBM isn't perfect, it has design problems which cause problems for VR. Either Mesa needs to fix up GBMs design or we need a new allocator, which was nVidias suggestion . KWIN and GNOME implementing EGLStreams is because this failed to happen and we risk being stuck using X.org forever.

                imho it shouldn't be in kernel space anyway.
                GBM is not in kernel space, it's in user-space. Confusing GBM with GEM/TTM?
                Michael Larabel
                http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Michael View Post

                  GBM is not in kernel space, it's in user-space. Confusing GBM with GEM/TTM?
                  Maybe?. I was under the impression it was closely tied to the open-source device drivers.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Britoid View Post
                    I didn't think you could be any more of an idiot.
                    Hahah, again believer looses his nerves.

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