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  • #11
    Originally posted by raonlinux View Post
    This is a project that I don' t understand, why they want keep alive a version of KDE but with the old libraries, why not port it to Qt 5, do like Mate which so far is not bad option, if you want to keep the older look of the desktop with the new libraries. They should consider also some new stuff of plasma that can improve or use it on this version as the Kwin but I bet that is a lot of work.
    That I will like it will be better that they join force with LXQT, and make a mix of both desktop, I bet will be interesting project. I like LXQT but need attention on the desktop interface with a better menu and use another windows manager not openbox which is already old one based on Qt or something.
    Porting to Qt5 means that they're just going to be another LXQT port. And no, please let the projects be separate. LXQT will never ever be as great as Trinity, even if the teams joined forces.

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    • #12
      It's quite telling really: not a single CD image with an up to date TDE: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/LiveCDs

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

        Porting to Qt5 means that they're just going to be another LXQT port. And no, please let the projects be separate. LXQT will never ever be as great as Trinity, even if the teams joined forces.
        So what is the problem of making another port on Qt5 as LXQT, we don't have too many DE on Qt, but this one it will be better interface and programs, I mean if they are using old libraries Qt3 it will get stuck with the features that brings Qt5, this meaning you will have two different libraries on Qt desktop (same happen with Xfce, gtk2 almost unsupported for been old and gtk3).
        As example you have VLC player, so need Qt5 using as TKDE. I said they can make a better desktop. TKDE it will be as Mate and LXQT it will be as XFCE.
        As long they don' t use the Qml it use just Qt 5 it will be great choice for users. But must be a reason that I don't understand it. I said join forces because they are few dev on both project of course each one has different goals that I understand made them different projects.


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        • #14
          Originally posted by raonlinux View Post
          why not port it to Qt 5, do like Mate which so far is not bad option
          When Mate was forked from Gnome 2.x, Gnome was already mostly GTK3-compatible – the Gnome devs did that as preparation for Gnome 3. KDE3 has no Qt5 compatibility. They could try to port Qt4's Qt3Support library to Qt5 though.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by awesz View Post
            The direction Linux's DEs should've stayed in: lean panels, standard widgets and time-tested concepts. Too bad Trinity is stuck with Qt 3.
            I honestly wouldn't mind a 2019 Archlinux style Build Your Own Desktop Shell / Build Your Own Pizza.

            I really don't like the "take it or leave it" offers, I wish I could use stuff from Gnome and KDE without them being worlds apart and that I could simply choose a start menu, a panel, a status menu without the whole BUY N LARGE style where you go to the software store for a panel and come out with a brand new plasmoid dashboard.

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            • #16
              In my opinion, the developpers of TDE have done the better choise, to fork the qt3 libraries. The Linux world don't have an open source, free, gui libraries (well, the Gtk libs are stricly related to Gnome only, and Qt libs are not completely open source and free). Why this "bug" ? I hope the TDE will not follow Gnome nor Kde with their complicated, heavy and buggy DEs. I always hated Arts (it was always disables when I used Kde3 time ago, too buggy). A complete network manager applet and program are needed. Lastly, many libraries should be dropped.

              Considered this: what is changed from Windows 95 (or from the firse Apple DE) to modern operation systems from the point of view of the DE? Almost nothing. We have always a bottom or upper bar with a menu button and a system tray, icons on the desktop, a file manager and a program that let users change some preferences. With time, they became more and more heavy, also in the Linux world. Heavy doesn't mean better, heavy means buggy. Commercial programs must be heavy to justify their high price, open source and free programs do not need to be heavy or complicated or just visually nice, they need to be useful, even simple.

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              Last edited by frank007; 04-01-2019, 12:14 PM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Baguy View Post
                Ii don't really understand why this project exists anymore, especially since the latest plasma releases have been really solid.
                Mate equivalent of the KDE world

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Girolamo_Cavazzoni View Post
                  In German we say 'Denkmalpflege' which means preservation of (cultural) heritage. Mate takes a similar direction and I consider it a fine desktop environment. But for the sake of future usability Mate's infrastructure is moving on - Trinity needs just that, I guess, to continue being a considerable alternative.
                  The main difference is that Mate doesn't depend on any deprecated toolkits or libraries unlike Trinity.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by monraaf View Post

                    The main difference is that Mate doesn't depend on any deprecated toolkits or libraries unlike Trinity.
                    TDE doesn't depend on any deprecated libraries, it depends on its own library, the tqt-x11-free.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by monraaf View Post

                      The main difference is that Mate doesn't depend on any deprecated toolkits or libraries unlike Trinity.
                      They forked Qt3, so they are maintaining it themselves. How is something they maintain themselves "deprecated"?

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