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  • #31
    Originally posted by Buntolo View Post
    I can do a lot of stuff faster using keyboard instead of mouse.
    G3 can't do anything like it, it doesn't have a right-click menu,
    So which is it? Is it that it doesn't let you do things with a keyboard, or is it that it doesn't have the mouse-driven interface you want?

    As a sidenote, when I want to launch a program in Gnome 3, I tap that key between ctrl and alt and I type part of the name of the program and I smack enter, and there's the program. Nice, neat, no mouse-touchy. There's a ton of keyboard-based shortcuts for doing things with windows that I don't really use, though, because I don't typically need to. Move a window to the next screen down? No idea what combo that is, but I know it exists, because I remember looking at the shortcuts list before.

    Are you sure the problem is Gnome 3 and not a user's unwillingness to learn a new system? Us IT folks should know all about users being unwilling to adapt to new systems and processes.

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    • #32
      Nothing is better than unity, fast usable with great integration. Good with hdpi monitors for many years

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      • #33
        Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
        Does gnome3 still have that horrible interface that's a combo between apple and microsoft?

        last time I used it, it was an awful experience. I disliked how gnome3 tried to force me to switch desktops from top to bottom instead of left to right. I'm now using cinnamon, which is waaay much better for my needs, and its intuitive and modern.
        The reason they do this is because UI studies have shown that to be easier, mostly because it's easier to push a mouse than it is to pull it. It's hard to get over habits but try it for a while, you'll get use to it.. and it is easier. Your wrist will thank you.

        And almost everyone has moved away from "task listing" into full pics of the app window. Even Android does this. Gnome may look like a Mac some.. but it works nothing like it. (it's better)
        Last edited by k1e0x; 03-14-2019, 04:52 PM.

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        • #34
          I just ditched Gnome on my laptop. Have been running Ubuntu foe the last 8 years and always went with default DE. I do almost no customization.
          Somehow on Ubuntu 18.10 Gnome was slowsl than my old Sandy Bridge based laptop ran on 18.04. Any notifixation would freeze my desktop for ~1 sec. And every day in the morning I had to do a plug-monitor, unplug-monitor, put laptop to sleep, wake it up dance until my second screen would be correctly identified.

          I am now on XFCE, does not look nice but I do not care much about looks. i do care about the DE staying out of my way which XFCE is good at.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by debianxfce View Post

            IBM owns red-hat that has Microsoft as partner. Both IBM and Microsoft have the motivation and money to prevent the Linux desktop success.
            Hahahaha! You still flogging this dead horse, Dweebian? Have you considered a companion animal? I don't mean for sex. It can help people who have lost a loved one, or suffered some kind of trauma, or are just plain losers.

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            • #36
              IBM bought redhat some months ago, so thats rather irrelevant on why redhat chose gnome3 many years ago.

              Originally posted by debianxfce View Post

              IBM owns red-hat that has Microsoft as partner. Both IBM and Microsoft have the motivation and money to prevent the Linux desktop success.

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              • #37
                studies have shown nothing about gnome3.

                "almost everyone"? I think not. gnome3 is such a failure that eventually Fedora lost most of its userbase and redhat was forced to create "spins" to get some of that userbase back.

                now redhat is trying to add some kind of tracking id on Fedora installations to see how many people use it, considering Fedora has been failing to impress the general linux public and all that due to a horrible gnome3 desktop.



                Originally posted by k1e0x View Post

                The reason they do this is because UI studies have shown that to be easier, mostly because it's easier to push a mouse than it is to pull it. It's hard to get over habits but try it for a while, you'll get use to it.. and it is easier. Your wrist will thank you.

                And almost everyone has moved away from "task listing" into full pics of the app window. Even Android does this. Gnome may look like a Mac some.. but it works nothing like it. (it's better)

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                  No, not a lot but every time you do it goes fullscreen and whatever you were looking at disappears, so it causes a context switch in your brain.
                  Windows 8 also had this fullscreen start menu screen, but it was so hated they brought back the start menu in Windows 10.
                  For me, the menu is open so briefly that it doesn't really count as a context switch... it's just a few keystrokes, so while I'm vaguely aware that the screen briefly flickered onto something else, it doesn't really register enough to be a distraction.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

                    That and the lack of a system tray are my issues with Gnome..
                    I'd bet a combination of the extensions "TopIcons Plus" and "KStatusNotifierItem/AppIndicator" would fix a lot of your system tray gripes. (Upgrade issues with extensions notwithstanding.)

                    I got back on the Gnome train around 3.14 and I just don't feel the need to switch. I've had my fair share of issues, but I just don't get the hate Gnome engenders in people. Gnome really isn't targeted at me as more of a power user, but it's relatively consistent, attractive, and gets out of the way.

                    My main complaints are the dumb as rocks file manager (easily replaced with Nemo), and the breakage of extensions on upgrades (I do use about 20 of them, e.g. Volume Mixer, Dash to Panel, Clipboard Indicator, cpufreq, Freon, Screenshot Tool, etc.). Said breakage is minimized by delaying upgrades on my Arch boxes and sticking to well maintained extensions.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by nranger View Post

                      I'd bet a combination of the extensions "TopIcons Plus" and "KStatusNotifierItem/AppIndicator" would fix a lot of your system tray gripes. (Upgrade issues with extensions notwithstanding.)

                      I got back on the Gnome train around 3.14 and I just don't feel the need to switch. I've had my fair share of issues, but I just don't get the hate Gnome engenders in people. Gnome really isn't targeted at me as more of a power user, but it's relatively consistent, attractive, and gets out of the way.

                      My main complaints are the dumb as rocks file manager (easily replaced with Nemo), and the breakage of extensions on upgrades (I do use about 20 of them, e.g. Volume Mixer, Dash to Panel, Clipboard Indicator, cpufreq, Freon, Screenshot Tool, etc.). Said breakage is minimized by delaying upgrades on my Arch boxes and sticking to well maintained extensions.
                      Just using KStatusNotifierItem works for me, TopIcons Plus tends to be the cause of a lot of slow down/crashes.

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