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Qt 5.13 Might Add QTelemetry For Opt-In Anonymous Data Collection

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  • #11
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. So from now on almost all Qt apps have to be considered backdoored by default. Sweet.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Luke View Post
      In my work, privacy is so important nothing can be allowed to auto-connect and send out data.
      That's what prompted me to go for rather custom setup, thwarting all this data prostitution on the very fundamental level. Whatever, destination of reports would immediately turn into valuable target attracting all sorts of powerful attackers. Looking on recent leak updates featuring BILLIONS of accounts I would bet it wouldn't take too long before this flag is also captured - at which point data wouldn't be very anonymous anymore. After all, at least server sees the remote address and maybe more than just that, like e.g. system configuration, particular user habits and so on - actually a very delicate and personally identifying data set. That is formally not a personally identifying but in reality could help identification a lot. Look, the way you click mouse could be kinda unique to just you. Paranoia or not, this folly is going too far.
      Last edited by SystemCrasher; 01-17-2019, 10:54 PM.

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      • #13
        Given how many modules Qt is normally split into, I'd hate to have to package them all for my Debian setup (or have to write a huge provides line in DEBIAN/control) if I have to build Qt myself to disable this. They say it will be opt-in for now but it will be a danger, and it will be crucially important that app developers can't make that choice for users or switch it over to a dangerous on by default, opt-out like all the privacy busting Google Play SHIT in Android or Windows 10.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Luke View Post
          Example: a QT app I use a lot is the video editor Kdenlive.
          It's called Qt, not QT.

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          • #15
            It's extremely unlikely this will make 5.13.

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            • #16
              Cue the panic and FUD.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by ihatemichael View Post

                It's called Qt, not QT.
                Yeah, and also: Kdenlive is not a pure Qt app as it uses KDE technology.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by edwaleni View Post

                  Telemetry can be used for the good.

                  A graphics driver update that was recently distributed is causing slowness with webex users and the issue was picked up by an AI instance crunching the telemetry logs.

                  Its not all nefarious and evil at work.
                  Yes, but Telemetry can be used for the bad too.
                  And choosing to protect myself from the good or bad, I choose to protect from the bad.
                  For me information is POWER. The more information someone has about me, the less power I have. And not only less power, but also less security.
                  I think this telemetry will be used for more bad things than good things, even though it might have been invented for good things.
                  In my opinion, the best thing would be to install telemetry as completely separate module, so it's not buit-in.

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                  • #19
                    They're turning the frogs gay!

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Danny3 View Post
                      In my opinion, the best thing would be to install telemetry as completely separate module, so it's not buit-in.
                      That's exactly what this thing is. A SEPARATE LIBRARY called QtTelemetry that applications use for telemetry.

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