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  • KDE Developers Kick Off 2019 With More Fixes & Polishing

    Phoronix: KDE Developers Kick Off 2019 With More Fixes & Polishing

    KDE developers were busy in the first days of 2019 working on Breeze icon improvements and other work so KDE Frameworks 5.54, Plasma 5.15, and KDE Applications 19.04 will be in even better shape...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...9-Improvements

  • #2
    KDE is great, too bad Linux Mint developers gave up on it. Anyway, their loss...

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    • #3
      I changed from Ubuntu Mate to Kubuntu recently.
      In Mate there was "User and Groups" to manage the user account and user rights like "vboxusers"
      Is there such a thing in KDE? (not with terminal, with a GUI of course)

      In the end i just installed "user and groups" from gnome

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      • #4
        BTW It's irony that Plasma is considered heavy and say MATE is considered light. Mint mate uses ~700mb ram after boot while kde neon is half the size. Plasma feels snappier, too.

        Will debianxfce evolve into debiankde?
        Last edited by tichun; 01-06-2019, 10:35 AM.

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        • #5
          This info is bullcrap. And plasma shares memory between applications.
          I mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80cVpHnf31M
          Not only are KDE apps more sophisticated, the difference in resource usage is small, but we've also had a year of optimizations on KDE side.
          The difference is negligible.
          Last edited by tichun; 01-06-2019, 11:10 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
            Thanks for asking, no. Everyone should avoid desktops that are never ready, resource hogs, slow and buggy: kde, gnome3, unity and windows GUIs after win 3.11.
            https://flexion.org/posts/2014-03-me...-environments/
            They should also avoid 4 year old benchmarks.

            FWIW, my Plasma 5 desktop uses 800mb of ram after startup. I can lower it in half if I disabled compositing, my drop-down terminal, pulseeffects, pamac-tray, baloo, and other programs that make my desktop pretty, convenient, & usable.

            Also, almost no one outside of server admins and kernel developers even give a damn about boot time or shutdown time...especially when we're talking only "many seconds".

            I'll take Plasma with its 4 seconds longer to boot up, 3 seconds longer to shut down, 20x the functionality of XFCE & 50x the usability of Gnome over less ram bragging rights.

            EDIT: What can Whisker Menu do that the KDE Application menu can't?
            Last edited by skeevy420; 01-06-2019, 11:33 AM.

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            • #7
              I installed xfce just to test get the data.
              I've never used it before, but task manager shows 17% RAM usage (4gb*17%=680mb).
              Meanwhile, Plasma 5.14 with Qt 5.11 shows 0.40gb usage with widgets and scripts.
              Shutdown is the same, but xfce launches ~5-10 seconds faster.
              Whisker menu? I doubt there is anything that couldn't be done in KDE.
              You could also turn a lot of the things off in KDE to achieve even better results.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
                Kde is not used with weaker hardware while Xfce is.
                https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...-On-ARM-Laptop

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by debianxfce View Post

                  Boot and shutdown times of Kde distributions are many seconds longer compared to Debian testing/sid Xfce that shuts down under a second. Qt applications breaks easier because of many qt packages they use. There is no freely configurable Whisker menu in Kde and KDe is heavier to use and run. Kde is not used with weaker hardware while Xfce is.
                  Wait, wut? There are tons of alternative menus that are configurable like Whisker. You can easily install them as a new widget, then right-click the menu --> Alternatives and select the one you downloaded. Excalibur looks the most like Whisker, but there are others like Simple Menu, Tiled Menu, UMenu, etc.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
                    Thanks for asking, no. Everyone should avoid desktops that are never ready, resource hogs, slow and buggy: kde, gnome3, unity and windows GUIs after win 3.11.
                    https://flexion.org/posts/2014-03-me...-environments/
                    What exactly is wrong with Windows after 3.11? I mean: yes, Vista and 10 and stuff sucks, but Windows 98 SE was a joy to use.

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