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  • #21
    johanb Yes, I read your comments. And I think you are way out of line. compositor leve screen access/manipulation is very different from having applications running in the back ground. I have absolutely no problem with the shell having a few special cases.

    For the background applications it is very easy to see which is running. And the can send me notifications using standard APIs.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Brisse View Post

      This is what 'gnome-system-monitor' and 'ps -e' is for.
      Yeh with Flatpak apps that isn't the case, they look like a bunch of bwrap processes.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Brisse View Post
        This is what 'gnome-system-monitor' and 'ps -e' is for.
        That's not very user friendly.
        Some apps also have a different binary name from what the application name which is confusing to many.

        Originally posted by cynical View Post
        It may be less justifiable in default Gnome because you cannot tell at a glance (you need to hit the meta key) which apps are running, but if you use a dock the way I do (as an ever present panel on left side of your screen), the dock acts as your system tray. This also makes a lot more sense and presents the user with a more consistent UI, since you have a clear separation between applications (which sit in the dock) and system controls (which sit along the top bar).

        "Background apps" doesn't even make sense to me as a concept anymore. They are just annoying little icons that I have to manage in addition to the traditional taskbar. I have to check both places if I want to be certain there is nothing active.
        Agreed that the top icons are annoying, but in that case by taskbar would be filled with 5 apps which I maybe only click on once every day or two which is very annoying since it's now cluttered with stuff I use rarely but still want to run in the background.

        Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
        johanb
        Yes, I read your comments. And I think you are way out of line. compositor leve screen access/manipulation is very different from having applications running in the back ground. I have absolutely no problem with the shell having a few special cases.

        For the background applications it is very easy to see which is running. And the can send me notifications using standard APIs.
        Where is it easy to see which non-system background applications are running? Don't tell me "System Monitor" because no one wants to dig through 100 processes which names often isn't even the name of the application.

        I don't have the ability to easily see if Steam, RescueTime, Skype, Discord or Wire runs in the background anymore and the GNOME devs seem to think that is fine according to this list. Steam and RescueTime are also background applications which do not fit into either chat applications, media players or cloud providers so there are no suitable APIs available to them.

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