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  • #11
    Originally posted by johanb View Post
    I'm still pissed from their decision last year to remove tray icons in 3.26.
    I felt the same so I am using TopIcons Redux now: https://extensions.gnome.org/extensi...opicons-redux/

    There is one caveat: programs in the autostart folder may start before TopIcons so they won't show tray icons. To circumvent that edit the exec line in the .desktop file e.g. for Dropbox: Exec=/bin/sh -c "sleep 30 && dropbox start -i" and make it read-only.
    Last edited by George99; 12-29-2018, 11:11 AM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
      johanb That’s funny. I feel very different about the tray. It was “noisy”. I was happy to see it go.
      I would also be happy to see it go, if there was some alternative which was less introusive.

      But there isn't, which is why I'm annoyed.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
        I did try to test gnome3 to know how bad it is today and it is so bad.
        No, you didn't. You just looked at a few screenshots and then went back to your beloved, holy Xfce.

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        • #14
          johanb there’s notifications.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by johanb View Post
            I'm still pissed from their decision last year to remove tray icons in 3.26.
            The tray is incompatible with Wayland. But you can always use KStatusNotifier, which works both in X and Wayland.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
              I did try to test gnome3 to know how bad it is today and it is so bad.
              Running Gnome Shell on Fedora 29 provides a smooth experience on HP Envy x360 Ryzen 2500U.
              Very minimal distraction due to paradigm focusing more on keyboard and very usable with touchscreen and stylus (after getting the fix for the kerne) for artists and design alike.
              Unhappy with the modern look? Switch to Gnome Classic (I haven't used for a very long time).

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              • #17
                Originally posted by johanb View Post

                I would also be happy to see it go, if there was some alternative which was less introusive.

                But there isn't, which is why I'm annoyed.
                Available via extensions.gnome.org

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
                  johanb there’s notifications.
                  Did you even read the rest of my comment?

                  You cannot use notifications to show if a program is running in the background or not.

                  There's a reason why Gnome suddenly decided that the shell needed a built-in night light and the two reasons were that they were too lazy to supply an API to do color management and the second reason is because they don't allow tray icons anymore so they couldn't find a simple and easily accesible way to manage the settings, so they hardcoded it in to the shell.

                  Originally posted by rastersoft View Post

                  The tray is incompatible with Wayland. But you can always use KStatusNotifier, which works both in X and Wayland.
                  But they could've made it compatible with Wayland and they haven't made it possible for the extension to support it either. So no Wayland for me sadly.

                  Originally posted by finalzone View Post

                  Available via extensions.gnome.org
                  Hooray, yet another basic feature which is supplied as an extension which gets support for the newest GNOME versions months too late!

                  I have one computer with Gnome permanently installed and I currently need 3 extensions to get an acceptable workflow, it's really annoying.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by johanb View Post
                    You cannot use notifications to show if a program is running in the background or not.
                    This is what 'gnome-system-monitor' and 'ps -e' is for.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by johanb View Post
                      I'm still pissed from their decision last year to remove tray icons in 3.26.

                      They talk about having other APIs which are supposed to replace these which are the notification API, media playback API, search API and cloud providers API but even with those APIs in mind they forget the simple fact that lots of applications do not fit into these categories but still run in the backgound and the user needs some indication if they are running or not.
                      It may be less justifiable in default Gnome because you cannot tell at a glance (you need to hit the meta key) which apps are running, but if you use a dock the way I do (as an ever present panel on left side of your screen), the dock acts as your system tray. This also makes a lot more sense and presents the user with a more consistent UI, since you have a clear separation between applications (which sit in the dock) and system controls (which sit along the top bar).

                      "Background apps" doesn't even make sense to me as a concept anymore. They are just annoying little icons that I have to manage in addition to the traditional taskbar. I have to check both places if I want to be certain there is nothing active.
                      Last edited by cynical; 12-29-2018, 07:50 PM.

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