GNOME 3.30 Ready For Release Today With Many New Features & Improvements

[rmoog]

>GNOME 3 requires systemd, thus it does not work on BSD
>GNOME 3.30 - various improvements for BSD

Wasted efforts much?

[Tomin]

>GNOME 3 requires systemd, thus it does not work on BSD
>GNOME 3.30 - various improvements for BSD

Wasted efforts much?

No. The first claim is false.

[starshipeleven]

>GNOME 3 requires systemd, thus it does not work on BSD
>GNOME 3.30 - various improvements for BSD

Wasted efforts much?

> you can install GNOME 3 on FreeBSD by using its package manager and then enabling relevant services since years ago https://fosskb.in/2016/02/16/install...on-freebsd-11/
> you still post FUD about it needing systemd

[horizonbrave]

I wonder if Wayland will FINALLY work properly on Nvidia. It seems like the release notes imply with every GNOME release that Wayland is ready.

You should wonder why you bought Nvidia in the first place.. I'm about to go Ryzen + AMD APU (Dell Inspiron) for my next laptop, wish me luck

[horizonbrave]

I doubt that Gnome Shell's problems will be fixed conclusively until at least Gnome 4. Until then, the current design where all extensions run in the same thread as the GUI make such issues basically unsolvable.

Does anybody know if there's any plan to address this for Gnome 4?

[ermo]

Does anybody know if there's any plan to address this for Gnome 4?

GNOME Shell 4 Proposals

[Delgarde]

Does anybody know if there's any plan to address this for Gnome 4?

There are no current plans for Gnome 4, period. There's a page on the Gnome wiki where some developers speculate about fixing stuff like this, but that's it – just speculation.

[buzzrobot]

Unity is smooth, Shell isn't. Bug report for Ubuntu here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...r/+bug/1763892

Canonical put out a request this week for volunteers to do Nvidia testing on 18.04/18.10.

I've also found Unity on 18.04 is quite nice, but I haven't really noticed choppiness, stuttering on Ubuntu's Gnome Shell on the same hardware (1080ti & 2560x1440 Gsync monitor). Gnome on Fedora 28, subjectively, seems a bit smoother.

I do find obvious and annoying differences between window managers/compositors on Nvidia versus a Vega 64/Freesync 2560x1440 combination. While I have not benchmarked gaming performance, I consistently see more visual negatives on the Nvidia setup. Running at 144 and forcing the composition pipeline does help. Still, the older compositors in xfwm, Marco, as well as Compton, are disappointing in routine use. Mutter/Muffin on Xorg perform better on Nvidia.

(I might run without compositing if scrolling in Firefox didn't come apart. It's a pet peeve.)

[lem79]

I've also found Unity on 18.04 is quite nice, but I haven't really noticed choppiness, stuttering on Ubuntu's Gnome Shell on the same hardware (1080ti & 2560x1440 Gsync monitor). Gnome on Fedora 28, subjectively, seems a bit smoother.

I haven't used nVidia on my desktop for almost 2 years now (GTX960 to a Radeon 380X then Vega 56), mostly been a good experience, and have enjoyed watching the open source stack evolve. On your 1080Ti, how smooth is dragging windows around in Gnome Shell? (either Xorg or Wayland). I've tried both Xorg and Wayland and both are choppy here. Window close animations, task switcher etc are all smooth, just not window movement. And it bugs me enough to not want to use Shell at all. I'm not sure if it would be different with nVidia, suppose I could try my laptop (Intel+nVidia.. a nightmare on 18.04).

[Brisse]

Been using i3 for the last nine days, 15 hours and 25 minutes just out of curiosity. I'm a regular GNOME user though and I already recieved some of these updates on Debian Sid so I will check it out whenever I have some time. Mostly I just wish the Wayland session (including xwayland) will respect the monitor refresh rate. Looking at those bug reports, it looks like it might be fixed but I'm not sure. Anyone know for sure? Will I still have to use that environment variable to work around the issue?