System76 Gets On The GNOME Advisory Board

[Danielsan]

The thing about adjectives is that you don't throw them around without a clear reasoning behind it. What exactly is "defective" about Ubuntu? In my arrogant and trollish opinion, "defective" would fit Debian better.

Mmm... Let me see, below the main issues I got (always IMHO) when I moved from Ubuntu to Debian

Sudo enabled by default
PPAs that break the system
Unsupported repos and buggy packages
Unstable by default
Blob drivers oriented

Those are still the main difference between the two distro but the PPA (unfortunately). However when the bundle packages (flatpak, appimage and snap) will be better integrated in GNU I believe the PPA will be dismissed, at least the bundle packages do not break your system as the PPA but not sure if they work on kernel space.

[angrypie]

The problem is Ubuntu itself, IMHO, it is defective by design if I compare it with Debian (IMHO). People who moved from Ubuntu to Debian never came back.

The thing about adjectives is that you don't throw them around without a clear reasoning behind it. What exactly is "defective" about Ubuntu? In my arrogant and trollish opinion, "defective" would fit Debian better.

[Danielsan]

ubuntu 16.04 is a great distro, stable and fast. Pop_os is bad ubuntu 18.04 looks bad maybe the problem is DE choice

The problem is Ubuntu itself, IMHO, it is defective by design if I compare it with Debian (IMHO). People who moved from Ubuntu to Debian never came back.

[starshipeleven]

Had a quick gander, most of it is just boiler plate, we rebranded stuff. The most affective part seems to refer to arbitration to make it clear that you can't cooperate with any other dissatisfied customers when taking Microsoft to Arbitration. If I understand correctly anyway. Legalese is as it always is.

Hm, a "no class actions 2.0" change.

Thanks for taking the time to read/understand and provide a tl:dr.

[arbition]

What did they add to their list of stuff none will ever care to read? (me included)

Had a quick gander, most of it is just boiler plate, we rebranded stuff. The most affective part seems to refer to arbitration to make it clear that you can't cooperate with any other dissatisfied customers when taking Microsoft to Arbitration. If I understand correctly anyway. Legalese is as it always is.

[jacob]

It's funny to me that everyone seems to have settled on a DE that is almost universally despised if forums around the internet are to be believed.

Personally, I like Gnome and use it (until I can be bothered to learn i3/sway). But I can understand why other people don't like it. And yet this is the DE that everyone has gravitated towards.

Forums aren't necessarily indicative of the real world. Quite to the contrary, in fact. Happy users just get on with whatever they want to do, and a few among the few unhappy ones will spend their time venting their frustration on forums. Reading forums would make you believe that Gnome is the worst thing since the Ebola virus, or that systemd is a conspiracy that no-one wanted but is forced to use being held at gunpoint, or that Linux itself has no redeeming qualities and everyone is jumping ship to FreeBSD, or conversely, that the only thing the FreeBSD community does is to argue to death about sjw pronouns... The point being, trolls will always be trolling but the rest of the world gets on with their lives and work.

[starshipeleven]

How do I accept these terms?

By using or accessing our products or services on or after May 1, 2018, you are agreeing to the updated Microsoft Services Agreement. If you do not agree, you can choose to discontinue using the products and services, and close your Microsoft account before May 1, 2018.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement/upcoming-faq.aspx

I guess will see on may 1,2018. I guess i'll have to use qtcreator on ... drum roll...

What did they add to their list of stuff none will ever care to read? (me included)

[starshipeleven]

We thought the same :-)

More detailedly: Mate is a fork of Gnome 2, that some people made because it is better than Gnome 3.

fixed.

[starshipeleven]

It's funny to me that everyone seems to have settled on a DE that is almost universally despised if forums around the internet are to be believed.

Is there still someone that believes the internet?

[andre30correia]

I have a system76 laptop, unfortunately my wasn't an happy deal.
By the way, I believe this commercial entity had better to switch from Ubuntu to something else. I have very hard time to understand how you can rely on a distro that is based on a snap of Debian Sid, with very few packages tested and rest completely buggy for the entire release cycle.

Beside my personal idea that Debian stable is the best option to create a distro (like Librem does), if you need a commercial partner to create your personal distro there are available other reliable options like Fedora, Suse (and its derivates), Red Hat/Centos. Ubuntu made a lot chaos and confusion taking advantage of its notoriety and it failed in almost everything, it made its time but we should go over.

ubuntu 16.04 is a great distro, stable and fast. Pop_os is bad ubuntu 18.04 looks bad maybe the problem is DE choice