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KDE Plasma 5.12 LTS Released With Much Better Wayland Support, Other Improvements
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Too bad memory usage optimization is just not there.
I open Akregator with zero feeds - roughly 250MB of RAM gets lost. What?!
The Plasma process (default configuration) eats up to 250MB of RAM as well with zero plasmoids on the desktop.
In short, boot up an empty plasma session, lose up to 700MB of RAM. So much optimization.
And some plasmoids crash all the time (like the weather applet). That's just not funny any longer.
In contrast I'm still running KDE 3.5.10 with tons of additional utilities (like knetstats which has no alternative in KDE5) and over 60 feeds in Akregator and memory use is under 250MB.Last edited by birdie; 06 February 2018, 08:04 PM.
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Originally posted by ngraham View PostI submitted a patch: https://phabricator.kde.org/D7423 but could use some technical assistance if anyone here is familiar with the systems in question.
(I hate people who tell you how to format it instead of just reformatting it themselves and _then_ telling you nicely in a non-passive-aggressive way how to do it from now on)
Ubuntu 18 has apparently still got Qt 5.9, that's a bit sad (for me, for Kubuntu), when is 5.10 due to be the dependency? (since it has apparently been released)
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Originally posted by birdie View PostToo bad memory usage optimization is just not there.
I open Akregator with zero feeds - roughly 250MB of RAM gets lost. What?!
The Plasma process (default configuration) eats up to 250MB of RAM as well with zero plasmoids on the desktop.
In short, boot up an empty plasma session, lose up to 700MB of RAM. So much optimization.
And some plasmoids crash all the time (like the weather applet). That's just not funny any longer.
In contrast I'm still running KDE 3.5.10 with tons of additional utilities (like knetstats which has no alternative in KDE5) and over 60 feeds in Akregator and memory use is under 250MB.
Oh, and get off my lawn.
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Originally posted by birdie View PostToo bad memory usage optimization is just not there.
I open Akregator with zero feeds - roughly 250MB of RAM gets lost. What?!
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Originally posted by callegar View PostAt least on Kubuntu Artful (as shipped via the KDE updates PPA), plasma 5.12 represents a significant regression on the standard Xorg session. The power buttons (power-off, sleep, wake up) don't work anymore.
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Originally posted by birdie View PostToo bad memory usage optimization is just not there.
I open Akregator with zero feeds - roughly 250MB of RAM gets lost. What?!
The Plasma process (default configuration) eats up to 250MB of RAM as well with zero plasmoids on the desktop.
In short, boot up an empty plasma session, lose up to 700MB of RAM. So much optimization.
And some plasmoids crash all the time (like the weather applet). That's just not funny any longer.
In contrast I'm still running KDE 3.5.10 with tons of additional utilities (like knetstats which has no alternative in KDE5) and over 60 feeds in Akregator and memory use is under 250MB.
Same with the Plasma process, you might find that plasmoids don't have much impact in most cases.
There are distros that boot into plasma session with only 350-450MB of RAM allocated, so you're probably just not on a suitable distro for your needs? Maybe consider KaOS? I use Manjaro personally. Gnome tends to use more than KDE, XFCE I think uses similar amount, can't remember but I think LxQt and i3 also had similar memory usage experience(but these were community spins on Manjaro).
If 3.5 meets your needs that's great, enjoy! For others Plasma 5 offers more for them than 3.5 does, not everyone prioritizes memory usage to such small amounts I have KDE 5.11 working great on a old core 2 duo dual core 2.5GHz 2GB RAM system, and it's running off USB 2.0 stick(32GB using about 15GB). My main system has 32GB RAM averaging 20GB usage, few hundred MB isn't going to make a huge difference for me. Usability/functionality is more important, then resource usage/performance.
What was the knetstats utility doing for you btw that isn't available in modern KDE?
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Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
In fact, KDE doesn't even support Intel on Wayland 'cause I can't launch a KDE Wayland session at all whereas GNOME Shell works fine on Wayland with this same Intel card.
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The release of Plasma 5.12 increased my experience on Wayland dramatically. Even the beta worked perfectly already. Compared to the previous releases quality has improved a lot, the serious bugs are fixed and I can now use it as my daily driver on all my Intel and AMD machines. I am really thankful for this great release!
The improvements required now for Wayland are missing Window decoration e.g. on LibreOffice or Virt-Manager (though Gtk might be a little tricky here), mouse pointer locking in games on XWayland (probably we need a new release of Xorg) and fixing the bugs that where a workaround is required today. But nothing critical anymore like in previous releases when I couldn't use Virt-Manager or when I had system freezes during login on Wayland, the scaling was automatically set to 2x or it was blurry. Plasma 5.12 rocks :-)
The new Color Mode in Plasma-Wayland to reduce blue colors at night and multi monitor environements work well (at least on my setup, test on Intel GPU and modesetting).Last edited by R41N3R; 07 February 2018, 06:30 AM.
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