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  • #11
    Why would they make a closed source filesystem driver? Such things should be open.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by shmerl View Post
      Why would they make a closed source filesystem driver? Such things should be open.
      Because they are in the business of selling/licensing file-system support.
      Michael Larabel
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      • #13
        Originally posted by Michael View Post

        Because they are in the business of selling/licensing file-system support.
        And and they are making money from other businesses. Are they not reasonably safe from pirating in this case?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
          Bulk of Paragon customers are in the embedded market. As in "company that makes embedded devices and need a driver to read disks formatted by something else".

          People on Mac don't use Fat32 on external hard drives.
          At the same time you can't read or write a NTFS drive without a third party software right? Some time ago a co-worker called me to check out why her hand-me-down Macbook Air wasn't reading her USB driver. I was shocked to find out that a "just works" thing for us on Linux was such a headache for the supposed "OS of the Stars".

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          • #15
            Originally posted by andyprough View Post
            Maybe I'm in the minority, but I can't imagine ever having to read from or write to an Apple-formatted disk. Never had to mount an HFS or HFS+ disk. I don't recall anyone ever doing work on a Mac and passing it to me on a specially formatted drive. Don't all the Mac folks just use FAT32 on their thumb drives?
            I believe Mac folks tend to use exfat on their thumb drives. This lets it the thumbdrive to work on more computers/devices than HFS+ and allows bigger files than fat32.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Michael View Post

              Because they are in the business of selling/licensing file-system support.
              Support is OK, but I find the business of licensing filesystems to be a rather fishy idea.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by andyprough View Post
                Makes sense regarding why Paragon would work on this driver. I've not been handed an external hard drive by a Mac user, but plenty of flash drives. The flash drives were all FAT32 as far as I can recall.
                Me neither, but there are quite a bit of "external hard drives for mac" formatted with their fs and costing 100$ more than a normal hard drive.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by shmerl View Post
                  Why would they make a closed source filesystem driver? Such things should be open.
                  Because they sell it to companies that don't give a shit about opensource drivers since they will use kernel 2.6.something or whatever ancient kernel is in their product's SDK (also full of other blobs).

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by CTown View Post
                    I believe Mac folks tend to use exfat on their thumb drives. This lets it the thumbdrive to work on more computers/devices than HFS+ and allows bigger files than fat32.
                    Mac folks use whatever is default filesystem on average. Any thumbdrive less than 32GB is Fat32, and quite frankly I never saw Mac users needing much more space than that in an external drive.

                    (some had a NAS though)

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by M@GOid View Post
                      At the same time you can't read or write a NTFS drive without a third party software right? Some time ago a co-worker called me to check out why her hand-me-down Macbook Air wasn't reading her USB driver. I was shocked to find out that a "just works" thing for us on Linux was such a headache for the supposed "OS of the Stars".
                      AFAIK the newer ones should have NTFS read-only drivers at least. For writing yes you need a driver. Some time ago (2014?) they had an experimental NTFS read-only driver, which was disabled by default.

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