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  • #11
    Originally posted by mark45 View Post

    Yeah, ReactOS is shit and always has been, including its very idea.

    Since getting rid of window$ and switching to an open source OS (Linux) are both a must, there's really only one sound option which is to switch to Linux while the government institutions that need window$ should work on a version of window$ compiled from source by the Russian government (I heard Microsoft hands out the source code to the defense ministries of many countries as "proof" that they don't ship with spying stuff).
    As far as userspace goes, whats your problem with win32?

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    • #12
      Originally posted by liam View Post

      As far as userspace goes, whats your problem with win32?
      you could ask microsoft why they threw win32 and made winrt

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post
        But it is. Linux is not an alternative to Windows. It is an alternative OS, yes, but it can't run Windows apps (let's ignore WINE here)
        why would you ignore wine when reacros is the same thing in different(worse) envelope?
        Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post
        Yeah, the audio/networking stuff is still broke as fuck, but I mean... Linux isn't much better on the audio front
        fuck off, imbecile
        Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post
        Also, this is great for people who reeeeeally need Windows for something, but (A) don't want to pay MS, and (B) don't trust MS.
        reactos is not windows and will never be. there are free(beer) versions of windows. there is shared source thing from ms. it is easier to port your shit to linux than to fix reactos.(which will never be fixed btw)
        Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post
        I don't get the ROS hate.
        that is because you have no brains
        Last edited by pal666; 20 June 2015, 11:10 AM.

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        • #14
          My guess is that this as usual, means nothing.

          This is not the first time Russia (and other countries) have played this act, and talk about moving off Windows into some open source operating system or develop their own operating system. It has always just been talk with nothing really happening.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post
            Also, this is great for people who reeeeeally need Windows for something, but (A) don't want to pay MS, and (B) don't trust MS. I don't get the ROS hate.
            For A, Windows 10 is gratis for both current users of Win7/8/.1 and participants in Windows Insider. So that's not much of a point these days.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post
              Also, this is great for people who reeeeeally need Windows for something, but (A) don't want to pay MS, and (B) don't trust MS. I don't get the ROS hate.
              Two words: Perpetual Alpha.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post

                For A, Windows 10 is gratis for both current users of Win7/8/.1 and participants in Windows Insider. So that's not much of a point these days.
                Windows is always free to Windows insiders before release. Post-release you have to pay. Also upgrades from older Win versions are only free for a year

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by nanonyme View Post
                  Windows is always free to Windows insiders before release. Post-release you have to pay. Also upgrades from older Win versions are only free for a year
                  Don't know where you're getting your info.

                  Windows 10 is (officially stated):
                  1. Free for users upgrading from 7/8 forever as long as you do it within the first year (that's just incentive to get more people on Windows 10 faster). The whole "for the lifetime of the device" thing means until your hardware can no longer run Windows 10 due to needing legacy drivers, etc.
                  2. Free for Windows Insiders after release. An update through the Insider Hub app clarified this:
                  Originally posted by Windows Insider Hub
                  Windows Insiders running the Windows 10 Insider Preview (Home and Pro editions) with their registered MSA connected to their PC will receive the final release build of Windows 10 starting on July 29th. This will come as just another flight. I’ve gotten a lot of questions from Windows Insiders about how this will work if they clean installed from ISO. As long as you are running an Insider Preview build and connected with the MSA you used to register, you will receive the Windows 10 final release build and remain activated. Once you have successfully installed this build and activated, you will also be able to clean install on that PC from final media if you want to start over fresh.
                  3. It seems (hasn't been officially posted, afaik), that Windows 10 is intended to be a rolling release, similar to Arch/Gentoo/etc. This way, most users will ALWAYS have the latest Windows OS at their fingertips, instead of having users wait 10 years to update (if even).
                  Last edited by Daktyl198; 23 June 2015, 01:34 AM.

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                  • #19
                    nanonyme, Daktyl198: You are both correct.
                    If you are currently a Windows insider and want to stay with Windows 10 release, then you have to pay for a Windows 10 license (except if your preview was upgraded from a licensed Windows 7 or 8.1 copy, and you switch to release within 1 year).
                    If you are a Windows insider and continue to beta test after release, then your preview license will continue to remain valid. But you have to upgrade to whatever is the latest preview before the old one expires.

                    Also I think rather than comparing it to Arch/Gentoo/... Windows 10 will probably be more like Debian stable("release")/testing("slow ring")/unstable("fast ring").

                    It is also not quite clear what this "supported lifetime of the device" means, and to which extent this lifetime depends on Microsoft and/or hardware drivers.

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