OpenBSD 5.7 will be less usable as a web server

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  • jake_lesser
    Phoronix Member
    • May 2014
    • 62

    OpenBSD 5.7 will be less usable as a web server

    The OpenBSD project appears to be imploding. Recently, they removed the venerable Apache HTTPD and replace it with the questionable Russian made BSD licensed Nginx. Now they are planing to remove Nginx as well and replace it with a shadowy application which the OpenBSD devs simply call "httpd" which recently appeared in OpenBSD current. See:



    Nothing else is known about this new "web server", it's functionality or even whether it is made by OpenBSD, the NSA or criminal hacker groups. OpenBSD devs simply said in the new manpage:

    The httpd daemon is an HTTP server with FastCGI and SSL support.

    The httpd program first appeared in OpenBSD 5.6. httpd is based on relayd(8).
    The exclusion of Nginx and Apache on OpenBSD means that users will no longer be able to run full featured web servers in chroot, a feature that has kept the decrease in OpenBSD usage share just shy of ~7000 users. Without this feature, OpenBSD usage share with likely be devastated. Long time OpenBSD users have shown outrage and threaten to leave the OS. Even hardcore OpenBSD nutcases like Reyk Floater (who collaborated by Theo de Raadt in re-licensing Linux Atheros drivers) are know threatening to leave the project for Linux.
  • endman
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 176

    #2
    Once they get rid of the web server, the next thing they should do is get rid of is OpenBSD itself.

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    • cb88
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 1347

      #3
      Originally posted by jake_lesser View Post
      The OpenBSD project appears to be imploding. Recently, they removed the venerable Apache HTTPD and replace it with the questionable Russian made BSD licensed Nginx. Now they are planing to remove Nginx as well and replace it with a shadowy application which the OpenBSD devs simply call "httpd" which recently appeared in OpenBSD current. See:



      Nothing else is known about this new "web server", it's functionality or even whether it is made by OpenBSD, the NSA or criminal hacker groups. OpenBSD devs simply said in the new manpage:



      The exclusion of Nginx and Apache on OpenBSD means that users will no longer be able to run full featured web servers in chroot, a feature that has kept the decrease in OpenBSD usage share just shy of ~7000 users. Without this feature, OpenBSD usage share with likely be devastated. Long time OpenBSD users have shown outrage and threaten to leave the OS. Even hardcore OpenBSD nutcases like Reyk Floater (who collaborated by Theo de Raadt in re-licensing Linux Atheros drivers) are know threatening to leave the project for Linux.
      Apache and Nginx are still there... just not installed by default. That is all kthxbye.

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      • JX8p
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 125

        #4
        Yes, yes, if you say so. In the end, the web server remains available, just as a package or in ports and not pre-installed. This is sensible.

        Now, off you trot, back to your little cave. Once again, you are objectively wrong and have dragged what little reputation you had remaining through the dirt. I would suggest you stop posting at once before you humiliate yourself further.

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        • Sergio
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 264

          #5
          Mother of troll...

          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! My god! This 'jake_lesser', 'endman', 'Pawlerson', etc, etc, is hilarious!

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          • kpedersen
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 2712

            #6
            Originally posted by jake_lesser View Post
            The exclusion of Nginx and Apache on OpenBSD means that users will no longer be able to run full featured web servers in chroot
            Wrong. And besides, full featured web servers are usually a likely source of security issues (to some people, that matters!). Apache especially!

            Originally posted by jake_lesser View Post
            a feature that has kept the decrease in OpenBSD usage share just shy of ~7000 users.
            Nope. Though to be honest, that is likely to be more than any single fragmented Linux distro anyway.

            Originally posted by jake_lesser View Post
            Long time OpenBSD users have shown outrage and threaten to leave the OS.
            Haha, as if! You of all people should know how obsessively committed OpenBSD users are.

            Now it's my turn for blatantly inaccurate statements... Linux doesn't support web servers. Actually, Linux doesn't support internet.

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            • Zplay
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 28

              #7
              For your information, this web server doesn't come from /dev/null, as explained in its man page http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.c...ry=httpd&sec=8 it's based on relayd.

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              • darkfires
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2014
                • 33

                #8
                I mean who really cares? In reality, this is a niche OS, not something most people on the planet use. And as someone in this thread pointed out, the few people who do use this OS are obsessed with it and will probably use it until the day they die regardless what packages are included by default. I work for a large data center and we don't have a single system running OpenBSD, nor have we ever had a customer request this OS. We did use to have a few FreeBSD machines but have since converted them all to Linux.

                Besides, it's still UNIX, you can compile and install whatever you want on it. Having said that Apache is bloated junk anyway, good riddance. If I'm not mistaken OpenBSD cares more about security than features, so if you want "full featured" stuff by default, you aren't going to install a security oriented locked down OS anyway...

                To the guy who said get rid of OpenBSD itself, wow... that's just crazy talk! Without the guys who brought us OpenBSD, we wouldn't have OpenSSH (and probably other useful stuff too)... The rest of the OS world benefits from OpenBSD even if most of the world doesn't use it directly, we definitely are using it indirectly! I shed a tear every time a unique UNIX OS goes extinct.... Long live OpenBSD!

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                • brad0
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 1014

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jake_lesser View Post
                  The OpenBSD project appears to be imploding. Recently, they removed the venerable Apache HTTPD and replace it with the questionable Russian made BSD licensed Nginx. Now they are planing to remove Nginx as well and replace it with a shadowy application which the OpenBSD devs simply call "httpd" which recently appeared in OpenBSD current. See:
                  This trolling is just pathetic at how bad it is. You can't even do a half decent job trolling. I can't imagine how much fail you are at everything else.

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                  • dante
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 36

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jake_lesser View Post
                    The OpenBSD project appears to be imploding. Recently, they removed the venerable Apache HTTPD and replace it with the questionable Russian made BSD licensed Nginx. Now they are planing to remove Nginx as well and replace it with a shadowy application which the OpenBSD devs simply call "httpd" which recently appeared in OpenBSD current. See:



                    Nothing else is known about this new "web server", it's functionality or even whether it is made by OpenBSD, the NSA or criminal hacker groups. OpenBSD devs simply said in the new manpage:



                    The exclusion of Nginx and Apache on OpenBSD means that users will no longer be able to run full featured web servers in chroot, a feature that has kept the decrease in OpenBSD usage share just shy of ~7000 users. Without this feature, OpenBSD usage share with likely be devastated. Long time OpenBSD users have shown outrage and threaten to leave the OS. Even hardcore OpenBSD nutcases like Reyk Floater (who collaborated by Theo de Raadt in re-licensing Linux Atheros drivers) are know threatening to leave the project for Linux.
                    They removed Apache because it's obsolete, their new web server code is based on their well known relayd based, they decided to develop it to replace Apache 1.3 because it's obsolete and new Apache versions lacks in code quality and security, they also decided remove Nginx because the code growed too much in size...Openbsd relies on security and code quality , they decided to start this project because it's easier for the developers maintain, however you can install Nginx and Apache and run them in a chroot.

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